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Council Report January 22, 2018
Marijuana Public Hearing

      by Dixie A. Walter
        February 10, 2018

     At the start of the meeting, citizen Karelina Resnick stood at her seat and declared a "point of order" regarding the public hearing on the agenda not being duly noticed in advance in the Town's newspaper. Mayor Mike Schaub said, It was [noticed]. "It was on the Town Hall reader board, it was in the News Tribune, it was at the Post Office, and it was in Facebook, so we did post in as many sources as we could." Resnick said, "But not the Dispatch?" To which Schaub replied, "The Dispatch, it was just a timing on the Dispatch to be able to get it in for the, and that's why we had to get it in the News Tribune."

   In citizen comments, Dixie Walter urged everyone in the audience and on the council to be sure when commenting to speak into the microphone because when transcribing the council meetings too often important comments aren't picked up by the recorder.

    In staff reports, Police Chief Brian Witt thanked Mayor Schaub and Town Administrator Abby Gribi for representing the Town at the memorial service for Deputy Dan McCartney, and everyone else who helped with coverage. The state audited the department's physical security and policies and procedures, which was all positive. Witt said eight people attended the second Coffee with the Chiefs on January 11 (the second Wednesday of the month). The next one will occur at 9 a.m. on February 14 at Bruno's Restaurant. The locations rotate between the Cottage Bakery, Cruiser Café and Bruno's.

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Transcript of Marijuana Citizen's  Comments and Council Discussion January 8, 2018...

     Lakota Craig sits between her parents David Craig and Kristina. Lakota attended the January 8, 2018 town council meeting as a child who benefited greatly from the use of medical marijuana in tincture form. Lakota will be 16 next month and has Williams Syndrome which means she has many issues that require medical help. (Williams Syndrome Symptoms)
    When her dad's turn came during Citizen Comments Lakota joined him and her mom at the podium, but not before walking over and shaking Councilmember Shrimpsher's hand. He sits closest to the podium.
    You will find part of Lakota's story below as told by her dad. She also participated in the Special Olympics December 10, 2017 in Kenmore, Washington. Lakota did so well she was the only local competitor to bring home a Gold Medal.
    When her achievement was explained to the audience and council Lakota received a hearty round of applause from everyone. (photo by Dixie A. Walter)

The Issue? Banning all Cannabis Business in Town

       by Dixie A. Walter
         January 13, 2018

     All council members were present except Bill Dunn, who was excused. Current council members are: Bill Dunn; Jennie Hannah; Bob Thomas; James Schrimpsher and Bob Walter. Mike Schaub is mayor.

    In Citizen Comments David Craig [Eatonville business owner and former planning commission] I've received a lot of phone calls about this issue she has Williams Syndrome. And there are a lot of difficulties with it." Craig encouraged Lakota's mother, Kristina, who was also present, to jump in any time as he talked.

   “One of her symptoms is over-sensory development - over three or four times what ours is .noise, light bulbs buzzing, thunder, vacuum cleaners. Craig said the noisy world we live in can get to be overwhelming.

   Several years ago she was put on Risperidone, which kind of helps bring her down a little bit, so wouldn't have these outbursts and meltdowns at school. It was very difficult. We had to do something to tone her down without losing our child or zone her out .Risperidon as said to be very safe, and she was on that for about six months, and it did good. We kind of leveled out (inaudible).(risperidone side effects)

    “We noticed there started little tics that came with that. (inaudible)

    “I don't know how many of you here are parents, but if you've ever seen your child start to tremor, and have convulsions, it's very scary. Tests showed that her kidneys had stopped functioning as a result of Risperidone. It is a hard drug, and one that you don't just stop; it has to be weaned off. Unfortunately, we didn't have that kind of luxury; it had to stop immediately. We needed to get help.

   "So relatively quickly, she was in the doctor's office and they gave her a long syringe with a little bit of liquid in it they put under her tongue, what they use for infants at Children's Hospital (inaudible) marijuana, and within 15 minutes we could see a part of our child that I don't know if we've ever seen before. And that went on for a couple years. This was back when medical marijuana was pretty new.

   "We could not buy this from Children's Hospital. We had to go other ways in finding that. We're actually very lucky, because we had that little pot shop where the cop shop was, was able to get the medicine needed for her.

   "And I thank the taxpayers, because they paid  for the Risperidone, But the medical marijuana was about 25, 30 bucks a month - much cheaper than the hundreds or thousands for Risperidone. Everything was documented. Yes, I was afraid that CPS or the feds would come in, and she was one of the first, not the first, but one of the early - under eighteen - a minor - who would be on this.

   "Kristina, again, I give her credit. She went right to the top. The superintendent out at Rainier School District, the principal, Mr. Bahr, who is married to our superintendent, Mrs. Bahr, and every educator, everyone who came in contact with her, they know what we were trying-- everything was documented.

   “She was on that for a year and a half. And it stopped. There was no withdrawals. There was nothing bad that happened. None of that 'reefer madness' from 50 years ago (inaudible) pot. None of those fears that we had happened. You can see that little girl that makes eye contact now, is engaging today, and is progressive in school.

   "That was just one part of her story. I did have a lot of phone calls about this last meeting. Got the minutes, read through that, and I just wanted to tell our story. In order to get the whole picture, you have to have both sides. That's just our story. She's just one of many, many in this area. And even though I'm nervous being here as her dad, I was brave enough to come up. So I appreciate you listening.

   "Because of her State Gold Medal Lakota is eligible for nationals, but unfortunately she would have to be away from Mom or Dad and her caregivers for up to a week or two, and she's not up for that. So she won't be able to represent Eatonville at nationals."

    As her family left the podium Lakota sweetly said, "Thank you, thank you."

    Tim Fobes also spoke about Lakota Craig, saying he has been able watch her grow up, and has been blessed to see her tremendous improvement, after her previous medication was discontinued and changed to a medical marijuana tincture.

    Dixie Walter spoke next, She then told the story of her sister, Dona, who, over 30 years ago, and before there was a voter-approved medical marijuana program in Washington, was suffering from metastasized breast cancer. Dixie said a man she knew who grew his own marijuana in Ohop Valley had given her a joint months earlier, telling her to give it to her sister, that it works for chemotherapy.

    During this chemo treatments Dona had recently moved to Des Moines and didn't even know her neighbors. She was caring for a three-year-old and a toddler, and was often home alone as her husband's work took him out of state, sometimes for days. Dixie called her and found she was extremely sick from chemotherapy.

    Dona told Dixie she was on the couch vomiting for 48 hours and unable to keep food down, due to the effects of the chemo. When Dixie asked if she wanted her to come over Dona began to cry and said “Yes.” Months before Dixie had been given a joint by a friend "of homegrown, illegal marijuana from Ohop Valley," she stuck it in a cupboard and forgot about it until that phone call.

    When Dixe got to Des Moines Dona smoked less than half of the joint. Within 15 minutes Dona was up, making and eating a sandwich.  

    "I'm not exaggerating; I wrote it down. I was stunned. I'd heard that it was good for cancer patients, but I didn't know for sure. I wasn't an expert on marijuana at the time. It was amazing. She all of a sudden started saying, 'I'm hungry.' Then went into the kitchen and made herself a sandwich and ate it.

    "This is why I am so against banning the access to medical marijuana. If you take somebody like my sister, who's alone somewhere and doesn't have access to it now that it's legal, she would never be able to go and get it herself. If it was close by, she could.

     "If somebody lived in Ashford [and used marijuana for chemotherapy, etc.] it would be easier for them to come to Eatonville to get it, than to drive all the way to Yelm, or to Spanaway, or someplace like that. If you guys make it absolutely impossible to do, then they have no options. The options are gone. These are ill people." She then handed the council a copy of the report about doctor's in favor or medical marijuana. (76% Of Doctors Approve Use of Medical Marijuana)

    Roni Johnson, who grew up in Eatonville, then spoke. She is in favor of allowing a retail marijuana business in town. She said she'd read that citizens at the previous meeting had talked about the Constitution and how it worked, and wanted to address concerns raised in the comments that she felt were unfounded. She said history shows marijuana to be, "a non-issue.

    "Our forefathers grew hemp on their plantations to make  rope, paper, fabric, medicine, and whatever else they were clever enough to use it for. It wasn't until greed became the factor, when it was discovered newspaper could be printed on paper from hemp rather than forests full of trees. It could be used as fuel instead of fossil fuel. That's when the trouble really started. It wasn't medical; it was money.

   "There are doctors that collect information on the evils of marijuana. Other doctors collect reams of information on the benefits of medical marijuana. Lots of words out there to be found, lots of doctors (inauble). Anything you choose from you can find.

   "There was a big concern of children around pot stores. I don't know if anybody here has ever been to a pot store, but as soon as you walk in the door you are immediately carded, or have to show your physical ID. And as a matter of fact, the biggest group of new customers at the pot stores are senior citizens. With hundreds of new products of lotions, potions, drops, pain patches, CBDs, the ability to get sativa or indica, to help you sleep or make you smile, all without smoking.

   "The fact THC has gone from three percent to eight percent, well, that's kind of lucky for us. Instead of having to smoke a whole joint, you only have to have a couple of hits and you're just fine. And that's progress. You're not nearly taking as much."

    Johnson went on to say Washington's governor and Seattle's mayor have both vowed, "to fight for our state's rights and will not be bullied none of the chaos that naysayers would have people believe. Plus the $280 million dollars in taxes collected in 2017 from the sale of marijuana is already built into the Washington budget."

   Johnson also said drugs were easily available when she was growing up, and she does not believe marijuana is a gateway drug. "So I am obviously against the fact that there would be no marijuana store in Eatonville or around the area."

    And that concluded citizen comments.

    During a brief report by Town Administrator Abby Gribi she mentioned the town had spread salt on the icy roads during the cold snap late in December. Gribi said salt was time and cost effective than putting sand on the roads.

    From the audience citizen Karelina Resnick asked the mayor if  environmental effects of
salt versus sand had been examined. Mayor Shaub said he had not looked into that issue.

    Then came the discussion on Ordinance 2018-1 - Ordinance 2015-1 (First Reading) adopting a new Chapter 18.12 of the Eatonville Municipal Code (EMC) to prohibit the siting, establishment and operations of any structures, property or land uses relating to recreational marijuana production, processing or sale and amending Chapter 5.04 of the EMC to prohibit the issuance of a town business license for uses relating to recreational marijuana production, processing or sale.

    The motion to approve the ordinance was made by Schrimpsher, and seconded by councilmember Hannah. A public hearing will be conducted at the second reading of the ordinance at the January 22, 2018 council meeting. 

    Thomas said his understanding was, since there was a public hearing at the last meeting where the motion to begin the process of banning all marijuana businesses passed, there was no need either to have another public hearing for this ordinance, or to schedule and conduct an advisory vote on the issue. Town Clerk Kathy Linnemeyer clarified that the ordinance moved tonight will need a public hearing, advertised in advance. Schaub said this ordinance to ban, would still take us to an advisory vote in November, and would give time for "committees both for and against" to write their arguments for the voter's pamphlet.

    Walter said the motion to conduct an advisory vote was originally an amendment to the motion to extend the moratorium at the June 26, 2017 meeting. He said that even though the amendment passed, the motion to extend the moratorium failed, so the decision for an advisory vote died with it. He added that he has never felt an advisory vote was necessary; the voters already spoke with the passage of I-502 in 2012. Schaub pointed out the initiative vote tally in Eatonville was split 50-50.

    Linnemeyer clarified what brought the council to its current ordinance, by reading the motion made by Schrimpsher which passed at the December 11 meeting: "To begin the process of banning marijuana in Eatonville to include the production, processing, sale, and all transactions including marijuana until an advisory vote takes place." Schrimpsher said, "I've always maintained that this is a vote-of-the-people issue, so that's why I worded it that way."

    Walter addressed the ordinance. ".One thing I think we all agree on, is marijuana use by minors, that are not being supervised by a medical practitioner treating a qualifying disease, like Lakota's, can cause developmental problems, and can sometimes lead to dependency in those brains and bodies that are still developing. That's why we have federal and state laws to prohibit such use, just like the laws that say businesses can't sell liquor and cigarettes to minors. That's about the only point I agree with from the comments [against allowing marijuana businesses] made at our last meeting.

   "I don't agree that it's unconstitutional to allow a state-authorized and regulated industry, that the feds have clearly said they will not interfere with as long as certain requirements are met. I don't agree that the plant is evil or contributes significantly to DUI convictions. I also don't believe that a marijuana business brings down neighborhood property values. I don't see any evidence of that.

  "Nothing I've read claims, as Tom Van Eaton claimed at the last meeting ,that marijuana is highly addictive, or is a gateway drug. I've been researching it a lot, and I haven't found that anywhere. One key early study that was done in New York City by Mayor La Guardia in the early 40's, about 'The Problems with the Marijuana Plant,' determined that, 'the publicity concerning the catastrophic effects of marijuana smoking in New York City is unfounded. [The study was done by the New York Academy of Medicine.] Therefore the 'Gateway Drug' theory is without foundation.'

   "I do believe cannabis is a safe drug when used responsibly, and a near-miraculous drug in some of its medical applications. And that's the big tragedy here. We're kind of isolated out here. If we don't want to allow a marijuana business in town, that means any medical marijuana users in Eatonville have to travel to get that drug."

    Schrimpsher passed out to council a list showing how much money the state is expected to share with Buckley, Covington, and Pierce County in 2018 [revenues from marijuana businesses in those jurisdictions]. His belief is that what's produced in revenues will not pay for the added enforcement which he feels will be needed. Schaub interjected that those projections were just through the month of September.

   Schrimpsher asked his wife, Theresa, to come to the podium and answer some questions. She is a detective with the King County Sheriff's Department, responsible for felony investigations, excepting homicide and sexual assault, in the jurisdiction of the City of Covington, population about 19,000. Schrimpsher asked her about crimes in or around marijuana shops in Covington. She said there was, on average, a burglary every month or two, between the two marijuana shops, a robbery outside of one (with a weapon "implied" but not used), assault calls, assist-with-trespass complaints (customer wishes to shop but has no ID), and people with guns entering the marijuana shop (it's illegal by state law).

   Schrimpsher then addressed a study he had quoted at the last meeting, which he claimed proved that youth drug DUIs are way up due to the passage of I-502,(initiative to legalize recreation cannabis) but could not give a link to, after a request by Walter. Schrimpsher said, "the study, that was commissioned by the King County Health Department that was being- that is being conducted by the University of Washington. I was given the information because I'm part of a traffic safety committee. The study has not been published, so therefore I cannot get a copy of it. And the person who provided that information did not want me to release that information."

   Schrimpsher then handed out to council the first portion of another study, by the Washington Traffic Safety Commission, on testing drivers involved in crashes. He said he used a ream of his own paper and printed it at his place of work. He asked Chief Witt how long it usually takes to process a DUI including transporting the suspect for lab work, therefore pulling the officer out of service. Witt estimated "about two-and-a-half to four hours." Schrimpsher, estimating with Witt, two hours for the transport [to Tacoma?], and two hours of paperwork back here afterwards, said, "So that's four hours out of commission for a marijuana DUI."

    He then referred to some of the charts in the study handout. "If you go to page 12, and if you see Alcohol and Drug combination in the age group 16-25, 68 percent increase." [Rather than an increase, the percentage figure is the proportion of drivers in that category tested for alcohol and drugs.]

    "Then you go to the toxicology testing, just drugs [He refers to Table 5: Toxicology Testing of Drivers by Gender and Age Group], 71.9 percent." [proportion of males, age group 16-25, tested]  

    "I would have copied the whole study for everyone, but it was a couple hundred pages long. I would love to send everyone a copy of it, but I don't have that much personal paper in my office, so I will send everyone here a link."

    Schrimpsher: "My figures show $748 million brought in last year.  Out of that $748 million, there was only $12 million doled out to the cities that legalized marijuana. So where does the rest of that money go? A majority of that money stays with the Liquor Cannabis Board, right? So it goes to feed the bureaucracy machine. It doesn't go back to the police department that's going to be responsible for the regulatory part of this. I can tell you that on the liquor side, the Liquor Cannabis Board  when the liquor license is up, they want you to do the legwork, 'Hey, what's going on with this place?'

    "There's not an agent that comes out unless he calls and requests one. It's the same on the marijuana side. It's the same agency, they're going to use the same model. They don't have enough manpower to regulate it themselves. They're trying to catch up, but still. And how long has it been legal? Since 2012."

    "So, looking at it from a fiscal sense, it's not the windfall that it's been portrayed to be. It's not going to save this town. One thing that I've seen, it's dividing the town. It divided Buckley."The town's divided. Some people are for it, some people are against it. I personally am for the will of the people. If people of this town say yes, we want marijuana, then that's what we're going to do. 'Cause that's the will of the people. Pure and simple, irregardless of what I believe on a personal level. The attorney general rescinded the memo that says that federal agencies to have their hands off of it. Now, do I believe that it's because he wants to go after the marijuana businesses? No, I believe he did it to bring attention to it, so that Congress can take it from a Schedule 1 drug.to a Schedule 2 drug. The kid gloves have been pulled off. So if the federal government so choose, they could. What was holding them back was a memo from the previous administration. That memo's been rescinded."

    Question from the audience: "What about local taxes?"

    Schaub talked about revenues from excise taxes  derived from all  three stages of the industry (production, processing and retail sales), and then from the regular retail sales tax, which he believed is a lesser tax for medicinal purchases by carded patients.

    There was a lengthy discussion about the ways the new laws in Washington and Colorado are structured, how they differ, and how that affects local revenues. Schrimpsher said Washington voters and legislators made a mistake by approving an initiative written by the marijuana industry, whereas Colorado allowed local jurisdictions to levy an excise tax and then the state got a cut of that.

    Question from the audience from Dixie Walter to councilmember Schrimpsher: "One of the reasons that I voted against the recreational is just because of what you're describing...Do you see that in the future there'll ever be any changes made, or is it just because they're getting the bulk of the money and they'll never give it to the community?"

   Schaub replied, "It's the normal revenue sharing that the  state has. There are specific places that it [the marijuana business excise tax money] has to be spent. You have UW doing research. You have money going all places. I think the [state's] general fund gets money out of that, too. If the state is in dire needs, which they have been, the cities, the counties are the ones that have theirs [revenues] pulled away. A perfect example is the Public Works Trust Fund. Money that's meant for low-interest loans for local governments to be able to do work, has been swept every biennium, so it's not available for the program. You've seen revenue sharing do the same thing.You go back, the liquor tax, the profit sharing was one that got cut back, too. You're always at the hands of the legislature."

    Schaub mentioned Gribi and Schrimpsher being registered for the City Days event for elected officials January 24 and 25, including talking with Representatives Wilcox and Barkis and Senator Becker, at the Capitol in Olympia, where they can lobby for more consideration for cities and towns.

    Schrimpsher said, "Dixie (Walter, in the audience), to answer your question, the trend in the last legislative session was to allow people to grow more at home, so to me, what does that foster? That fosters the black market.".(In the audience, Dixie says, "You mean it will add to an already thriving black market.")

    Schrimpsher: "Right...The last legislative session there was two bills designed to allow people to grow a larger quantity of marijuana at home, almost to start a home-grown business. One of them even had that kind of language." (Question from audience: "Was that for recreational or medical, or both?" Schrimpsher: "There is no such thing as medical. It's all just marijuana in the state..."

    Schaub then brought the discussion back on topic, saying there will be time for a public hearing and public input at the second reading, during the next council meeting.

    Walter then shared data from two studies he'd read about marijuana. One, printed in the News Tribune last April, was by University of Georgia researchers that showed "in states with medical marijuana laws, that prescriptions of painkillers, anti-depressants, and anti-anxiety meds, dropped significantly among Medicare patients.

   "Then they followed that up with another study, of Medicaid statistics, showing that Medicaid users displayed the same sort of results, but of course, that was being applied to all age groups, not just the seniors. Anti-nausea prescriptions fell by 17 percent, anti-depressants by 13 percent, seizure and psychosis drugs by 12 percent. They estimated it would save about $1.1 billion in Medicaid prescriptions, and another $.5 billion in Medicare prescriptions.

   "Another study I found when I was looking for the study that you had mentioned at the last meeting, councilman Schrimpsher, was one by AAA Washington, done by UW researchers, looking at Washington State Patrol data. Its findings indicate that 'THC-involved driving is relatively common, appears to be increasing, and is likely to be underestimated.' And in a study of 3,000 drivers as part of this study, investigators found 'no significant association between collision risk and testing positive for THC.' It also showed 'no significant increase in youth DUIs involving TCH related to I-502.'"

    Councilmember Hannah talked about the fact there are people for and against, and conflicting studies. (most of this inaudible) "I've had the pleasure of watching Lakota [Craig] grow into a beautiful young woman, and I'm so thankful that you found a solution for her. I was running on my advisory vote for this. I largely don't think that Eatonville is ready. (inaudible) 1:30 I have one more thing. I think we would be remiss for the time period between now and the advisory vote, to not have (inaudible).

     Walter asked Witt, "Are you anticipating (reading from the new code language the ordinance would create) 'extraordinary and unsustainable demands' on police resources in Eatonville if we legalize a marijuana business in town?" Witt replied, "I would say yes to extraordinary. I would. Unsustainable, I don't know. There would be more of a demand. Councilman Schrimpsher just mentioned the calls, or, Detective Schrimpsher just mentioned the calls, and I was sitting here with my computer and I pulled up one business, The Gallery. Sixteen calls last year, at the Gallery in Parkland. Twenty five the year before, and I don't believe that was the year that the homicide happened. I believe that was the year before that. So a lot of demand in calls at these businesses. And many times I hear them on the radio, they're violent. Robberies of citizens, coming out of there with their weed, if you will."

    Witt went on to explain the calls are often involving a customer walking out with their purchase being "rolled" in the parking lot, "or, in the Parkland case, kill them," he said.

    Walter asked if such a business would bring 'increased transient visitors in town.' Witt said transient visitors are different than transients, but yes, it would bring more people into town, for the purpose of making a purchase at the marijuana shop. Witt said, "Therefore, if they're using in town, it might increase- it definitely should increase, our DUI."

   Walter then said, "I will vote against this, for the same reasons that, the way this is worded, it's asking us to vote for it. It's saying. this will help to prevent the exposure of school-age children to marijuana, and the potential for increased illegal sales to minors. How would this do that? How would a regulated sale to adults contribute to illegal sales to minors? I don't understand."

    Witt: "Quite often we see the people that are contributing to the delinquency of a minor, are those that are an older brother, older sister, buying booze for younger brother, younger sister, siblings or friends. That's a common occurrence when it has to do with alcohol. And it should be the same occurrence when it comes to marijuana."

  Walter: "Right. So should we close the stores that sell alcoholic beverages and cigarettes?"

   Councilmember Thomas: "No, but that points out the logical fallacy in your argument."  

   Walter: "They're allowed. They're regulated. They're causing tens of thousands of deaths each year. Marijuana has not caused any demonstrable, overdose deaths."

   Thomas: "But that wasn't your argument. Your argument was, that locating a retail store in town will not provide access to minors. Granted, it will not provide direct access, but I think anybody that says it will not provide indirect access is in denial."

   (From the audience: "Then we need to close all the places that sell alcohol.")

   Walter: "Medical users, qualified medical users, will just have to drive a long ways, to get something that's really helpful for them, whether they have PTSD, or glaucoma, or intractable pain, or Crohn's disease."

    Witt: "Councilmember Walter, I just want to let you know, I have a family member, that at age 18 considered himself a medical user. Because of his use of THC, and butane honey-oil, ended up almost a month, in a mental hospital, against his will. Butane honey oil is pure THC, and is sold in these marijuana establishments. Not eight percent THC, 100 percent."

    Schaub said he believed that putting it all under one umbrella harmed the medical side over the recreational. Schrimpsher: "I'll agree."

    Walter replied, "I voted against I-502 because I thought it would negatively impact the medical market which was functioning well. And now we are discussing prohibiting someone with authorization for medical marijuana from purchasing it in our town."

    Schaub: "You're right. It creates a retail store, that is the only way of selling it. Which is, I mean that's where you kind of have created the thing so."

    Thomas: "That was probably not an accident. That was probably the strategy. Cause now you have to throw the baby out with the bathwater."

    Schaub: "It's hard to say. But, I mean, a lot of these type of  comments will work well for the public hearing that we have at the next meeting. So, I mean, write these things down and keep track of them, because, we need to keep this, as, from a public comment standpoint now, of..."

    Roni Johnson from the audience: "One more question?"

    Schaub: "No." (congenial laughter)

    From the audience: "Vote, vote, vote, vote, vote." Schaub: "So we've had a request to vote."

    Walter: "I think a lot of the comments opposed to legalizing a marijuana business in town, are holdovers from the paranoid 'Reefer Madness' era of the early years of the Federal Bureau of Narcotics, and Henry Anslinger, who was a racist. He said, 'The degenerative races are attracted to this drug,' and 'It will cause Negroes to look at white women twice.'

    "It's just- there was so much hype and so much false claims about it, causing insanity. And again, I'm not talking about youth use of it. I think it should be prevented, and it should be prohibited, as it is. But I think for regulated adult use, it's unnecessarily hysterical, and doesn't need to be.

    "One more thing. I disagree with my fellow council member Thomas, about President Obama's decision to set out guidelines for which laws- which states- excuse me, to make sure that if the states are going to legalize medical marijuana, that they follow the federal guidelines about, against smuggling, transportation across state boundaries, use by minors, all the illegal sales, and fighting the drug cartels.

   "And I believe that the feds would step right in  to any state, and they have, and in fact Obama had a much tougher stance against marijuana in his first few years of administration than his predecessor George W. Bush did. And then he saw all these states moving to pass medical marijuana programs and authorize and legalize them, and he decided, well, let's at least allow these state processes to play out.

   "One of the quotes- the Ogden Memo, 2009, was the first one related to this, directed U.S. attorneys, 'not to focus federal resources on individuals whose actions are in clear and unambiguous compliance with existing state laws providing for the medical use of marijuana. And then the Cole memos - there were two of them, 2011 and 2013 - give discretion to, 'jurisdictions that have implemented strong and effective regulatory and enforcement systems,' and even Deputy Attorney General Jim Cole admitted that, 'A robust system may help address federal priorities, by preventing diversion to other states, prohibiting access for minors, and replacing an illicit marijuana trade that funds criminal enterprises with a tightly-regulated market.' So that's where Obama was coming from."

    Schrimpsher: "So the 2009 memo is the memo that Jeff Sessions just rescinded. So, correct me if I'm wrong, that would be President Obama's second year in office. When you say he was tough on marijuana, he actually restricted the prosecution of it in 2009, his second year in office, just for clarification of the record."

   Walter: "Well, no, let's look at the prosecution record, and the number of raids. They were much higher than George Bush's."

    Thomas: "Just a reminder before the vote. Councilman Walter, with all due respect, if the issue was only medical marijuana, I'd be right on board with you. But if the state legislature, through either a lack of fortitude or a lack of wisdom or a combination of the two, they've rolled everything up all in the same bundle. And I am adamantly opposed to recreational marijuana, for a litany of reasons, as much as I am for medical marijuana. But unfortunately, I don't have, nor does the council have, the latitude to choose between the two. I honestly wish I did. But I think at the same time, that all the council members need to keep that in mind, that we can't segregate the two issues So everybody has to decide on their own what's the esser of two evils in this case."

   The motion on the ordinance passed by a vote of 3-1, with Walter voting “No.”

   Council member Schrimpsher asked for a moment of silence in honor of the fallen Deputy Dan McCartney

   The meeting was adjourned at 8:51 pm.


 My View:

Sounds Like Some Citizens are Still in the Grip of “Reefer Madness”

Reefer Madness” is a Propaganda Film made in
the 1930s that is Jammed Full of Lies about Marijuana and its Effect on Humans

       My View
       Dixie A. Walter
       January 6, 2018

     What do William Randolph Hearst, the DuPont Company, Henry Ford and Gulf Oil Corporation have in common with turning a rather benign plant into the “Devil's Weed?”  Plenty!

     Hearst was a power hungry newspaper man who made his own newsprint. His “yellow journalism” papers were read by 20 million people daily at one time. Hearst had enormous power over the way Americans reacted to various issues. He is also the character that Orson Wells patterned his iconic movie “Citizen Kane” after. Said by most to be the best film ever made, its main lessons are about how destructive the obsessive search for power and the greed that often goes
along with that power can be.

     Hearst owned a million acres of prime timberland and used  the trees to make his newsprint. At that time hemp/marijuana/cannabis was legally grown in America. Hemp was found to be a cost-effective way to produce paper. After all, the Chinese had figured it out thousands of years ago.

     Hemp, basically a weed, could be grown on far less land than timber and was an easy crop, as the plant rarely needed pesticides and can be harvested far more easily than huge trees.

     Hearst was not happy. The idea of using hemp to make paper meant his millions of trees would not be necessary, and his forest holdings, not as valuable. Hemp growers had to be stopped,
but how?

     This is where Andrew Mellon enters the hemp prohibition picture. Mellon was President Herbert Hoover's (1929–33 ) Secretary of the Treasury, and owned the sixth largest bank in America.

     Among other interests, the Mellon Bank was most involved and invested in the DuPont Company's sulfur-based process of turning wood fiber into usable paper.

     Now only was Hearst not happy, neither was Mellon and DuPont, all hugely powerful people. Remembering this, so far, is only about the production of paper for newspapers.

     Hearst began his “crusade” against hemp/marijuana using his widely read paper with truly disgusting lies about what happens to a person who smokes the “weed.” Here is one of the completely racist statements he published in his paper: “Marijuana influences Negroes to look at white people in the eye, step on white men’s shadows, and look at a white woman twice.”   

     Here is an excerpt from an article on a website called Medical Jane titled “Exposed,” by Zach Reichard, states, “Hearst’s newspaper was the fuel to the fire for the prohibition of marijuana. He painted cannabis as an extremely dangerous drug in his “Yellow Journalism,“ and convinced millions of Americans (many of them congressmen) that the harmless plant is in fact, evil. Films
like ‘Reefer Madness‘ had the public blaming cannabis for everything from car accidents to death.”

   (The information contained on this site can be found in many, many places on the Internet. However, this publication has gathered most of the bits and pieces scattered elsewhere and put them into a concise, easy to read, near scholarly article. I have double checked the facts and they are accurate. You can do the same.)

    What about Henry Ford you may ask? He actually was one of the good guys in this parade of the powerful and greedy. According to history Ford started producing his famous Model-T in 1913.

    No one appeared to have many issues with the automobile except buggy whip/carriage makers, but Ford's next plan put him right smack in the middle of the hemp hysteria promoted by Hearst, Mellon and DuPont.

    Ford had the audacity to open a plant in Michigan during the 1930s and found success proving that hemp could be used to fuel his cars and was “an alternative to fossil fuels,” according to “Exposed” and many other historically accurate sources.

   Exposed” informs us, “What this meant for Ford was that he could now not only produce their own raw materials to make cars, but he could make the fuel to run them as well. The discovery was horrible news for Andrew Mellon, who owned much of the Gulf Oil Corporation; a company who had just recently opened their first drive-through gas station.”

     And now enters a new and venomous man, Harry J. Anslinger, an ultra-conservative, aggressive critic of any, and all, things equated to hemp. Ansliger was also a sycophant for Hearst and Mellon.

     In 1932 Mellon's Treasury Department established The The Federal Bureau of Narcotics (FBN). Mellon then appointed Anslinger, husband of his (Mellon's) niece as head of the new department.

     Following in the wake of Hearst's racially charged lies regarding hemp/marijuana, “Anslinger testified before Congress by parroting Hearst and adding more racist lies to his “crusade,” “Marijuana is the most violence causing drug in the history of mankind…Most marijuana smokers are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz and swing, result from marijuana usage. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes.”

    Among other Anslinger quotes are these hateful and blatantly false statements, “The primary reason to outlaw marijuana is its effect on the degenerate races.” ​ “Reefer makes darkies think they're as good as white men.”​ “Marijuana is an addictive drug which produces in its users insanity, criminality, and death.”​ “You smoke a joint and you're likely to kill your brother.”

    According to history, Anslinger was not adverse to using Hearst papers' propaganda as he lobbied Congress with such revolting and improbable false brainwashing of the uninformed
American public.

    The power, money and constant, fictitious indoctrination by these men culminated in the Marijuana Tax Act of 1937. The legislation effectively made possession or transfer of marijuana illegal throughout the United States under federal law, excluding medical and industrial uses, through imposition of an excise tax on all sales of hemp. (The exclusion of medical and industrial uses fell by the wayside as the tax crippled the hemp growers and eventually killed an industry that could be bringing in multiple billions of dollars today. It's true, you can look it up. And it took huge movements across this country to start recognizing the health benefits of medical marijuana.)

    Marijuana was classified as a Schedule I drug by the pharmaceutical industry, claiming the drug had no proven medical benefits, and is an addictive and dangerous drug. Connect the dots here.

    This is like saying a Jack Russell terrier is as dangerous as a grizzly bear. Sure, a Jack Russell with rabies can cause possible death in humans, but there are pre-symptomatic treatments
for rabies. There are no treatments if a grizzly bear tears you limb from limb, then dines on your body.

Medical Marijuana is My Focus not Recreational

    I voted against the recreational marijuana bill as did my husband, Bob, who is also a member of the Eatonville Town Council, starting his second four-year term this month.

    We decided to vote “No” on this measure for the exact reasons that are now stirring up our community and other communities across the state. The fear that medical cannabis would be, in some cases, thrown out like the proverbial baby with the bath water when ill-informed communities decided recreational cannabis is a threat to the very heart and soul of a community.

    This is what's happening today in Eatonville. Councilmember Jim Schrimpsher has long wanted to ban all marijuana related businesses in the Town of Eatonville. There is just one item of business on the council agenda for January 8, 2018, and that is to change the municipal code to read, in part, “It is the purpose of the chapter to stem the negative impacts and secondary effects associated with all marijuana uses, whether it be medical or recreational...” [Emphasis mine.] You can see this full agenda business at http://eatonville-wa.gov/files/u2/010817_2018-1.pdf

    There are so many falsehoods, perpetuated even today, that echo the wild accusations of these men who managed, in the end, to pretty much kill the production of hemp for various uses, like rope, clothing, and worst of all - at least to the architects of destroying hemp production - the use of its cost-effective pulp to make paper, and a cost-effective way to make fuel to run cars.

    Among the arguments still parroted today are that marijuana is a gateway drug and will lead users to heroin and other hard drugs. This can be true in some cases, but on the whole this is not true at all. Studies show the most common gateway drug is alcohol. Nicotine can also lead to other drugs; however, those drugs are most often alcohol-related drugs.

    Another claim is that cannabis is addictive. This can be true in the rarest of cases. While some people may become psychologically “addicted,” physical addition is so rare as to be almost non-existent.

    Again, none of the dozens of users I know, or have known in the past, were “addicted” to marijuana, be it medical or recreational. Nicotine, alcohol, even caffeine, are much, much more likely to cause physical addiction, and now opioids are the huge addiction problem in America, leading to deaths in some cases.

    These are pharmaceutical drugs prescribed by doctors. Humans cannot physically take enough marijuana to cause death; it's impossible.

     In the past few days the federal government under Attorney General Jeff Sessions has tried to restart the failed “War on Drugs.” In my opinion this is just another distraction to keep our minds off the very real, multiple investigations happening to the Trump administration. I see this, as do millions of other citizens, as a state's right issue. Taxpaying citizens in over two dozen states have voted to legalize this plant. Why don't these states and their voters have the power to say what is legal? Especially when many of us know cannibis does not belong on a list that includes seriously dangerous drugs?

    This latest attack is also something brought up by people who still seem to be brainwashed by nearly 80-year-old falsehoods still perpetuated by the men who wanted a monopoly on making paper, money from fossil fuels, and synthetic pharmaceuticals.

    Medical marijuana has been legal in 29 states and has been in many since the 1990s. I have seen no white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes.” Nor have I seen anyone desiring to commit murder. Same goes for all the other propaganda fed to the public for decades.

    As for driving while using cannabis, I have seen reports such as this one “Since marijuana legalization, highway fatalities in Colorado are at near-historic lows.” This is a 2014 Washington Post article – here's a link - Since marijuana legalization, highway fatalities in Colorado are at near-historic lows - The Washington Post.

    There are other similar reports on the Internet. This is about people who use cannabis without alcohol – adding alcohol to the mix is not smart. In fact, it's not smart to drive if using marijuana. However, I am a nervous passenger and have ridden in vehicles driven by people using medical cannabis and never been frightened. It seems the use makes them more careful drivers. The same cannot be said for those driving with alcohol in their bodies. They do scare me, a lot.

    Interestingly there are very large numbers of adults who use cannabis to stay off of alcohol. While it doesn't work for all people addicted to alcohol, it does work for thousands and thousands of them. You can find their stories all over the Internet if you care to look.

    I have personally known many, many people who have used marijuana illegally for close to 50 years...you probably know them too, but just don't know they use the plant. None of the people I know, or have known in the past, went on to hard drugs.

    In fact cannabis has been used, in various forms, to combat opiod addiction – an addiction fueled by the medical field. The same medical field who in the past staunchly declared cannabis had no medical attributes.

    This has also been backed up by the federal government. Which is very interesting as the government of the United States began taking out patents in 1942 – the patent I read is dry as dust
and obviously written for people with medical/science backgrounds.

    I have not quoted the dry-as-dust words and have just used what we lay persons can understand. In part the patent's abstract states, Cannabinoids have antioxidant properties...making it useful in the treatment of a wide variety of oxidation-associated disease such as age-related, inflammatory and autoimmune diseases. And limiting damage following stroke or trauma, or in the treatment of neurodegenerative diseases such as Alzheimer's, Parkinson's and HIV dementia. You can read the patent at this link-United States Patent: 6630507

    Used properly, and carefully, marijuana, whether medical or recreational, does little to no harm. And by-the-way medical marijuana is also used by veterans to seek relief PTSD. It may not work for all but it does work for many.

    In the 1940s Fiorello La Guardia, then mayor of New York City and anti-prohibition (we all know how well that worked out – for organized crime), commissioned a study on the effects of marijuana. The La Guardia Committee was composed of the New York Academy of Medicine and concluded, “...The publicity concerning the catastrophic effects of marijuana smoking in New York City is unfounded. Therefore, according to the La Guardia Report, the gateway drug
theory is without foundation.”
The committee's report was published in 1944.

    Naturally Harry Anslinger, the fear monger, was incensed and started a crusade to bring into disrepute these medical experts and their study/report as “unscientific.” Of course he would do that; his hyperbolic frenzy had been proven wrong then, and it is still wrong today.

    Yet, there are obviously people who continue to believe Anslinger, Hearst and their flunkies instead of actual science.

    Medical marijuana has helped millions of people dating back thousands of years into ancient civilizations, when no one said it was the "devil's plant." In fact, those ancient civilizations didn't even conceive of the concept of a Satanic being. They knew evil existed but a weed that helped them feel better, and even feel good, was far from evil, it was a blessing as were other medicinal plants.

    Medical marijuana has been legal in Washington State since 1999, and all I've seen has  fine. People on chemo being more able to stop constant vomiting and be able to eat. Medical marijuana has also been used to help people with anorexia – the list is long and if you want to see what illnesses qualify a patient for medical cannabis check out this link - https://www.doh.wa.gov/YouandYourFamily/Marijuana/MedicalMarijuana/PatientInformation/QualifyingConditions

    I leave you with this true story about my late sister, Dona, who died in 1982 of
metastasized breast cancer.

    Dona's husband worked for the FDA and had military privileges. So  when it  was discovered, in Texas, that Dona had breast cancer she came to Eatonville so mother and I could take care of her and her two very small children, a daughter who was a babe in arms to begin with, and a three-year-old son. Dona was 34 and would be able to use Madigan Hospital as her treatment center.

    She was also a retired nurse who had worked in cancer wards. After she got a “clean” bill of health, meaning her cancer was “gone,” her husband made her move to Des Moines in a house under the flight path of SeaTac.

    His work took him away for days at a time and she was still on chemo. One day I called her and her son answered the phone telling me his mommy had the “throw ups.” He gave her the phone and I found out she had been vomiting for two days and could barely get up from the sofa.

    Yet she had two small kids to care for. By then her daughter was a toddler. I asked Dona if she wanted me to come to her house and she broke down in tears, she was so relieved to have help (I fight back tears as I write this).

    Before I left Eatonville I remembered a man I knew back then, over 30 years ago, had given me a joint of home grown marijuana he had harvested from his land in Ohop Valley. He told me it was for my sister. I had stuck it away in a cupboard and forgotten about it.

    However, I had heard about how extremely helpful cannabis was for nausea and decided it sure wouldn't do any more harm to her, as she was so sick.

    Dona smoked less than half of that old joint, and within fifteen minutes (15) she was up and eating a sandwich. I documented (wrote it down) that experience because it was so stunning to me.

    Here was a young mother, who had laid on a couch for 48 hours vomiting and getting more and more ill. But within minutes this “devil weed” had worked its healing properties on her, which allowed her stop feeling sick and even allowed her to eat.

    If that isn't a healing plant I sure don't know what is

    Dona died a few weeks after her 35th birthday and is buried in our family plot at the Eatonville Cemetery. However, that awesome little weed helped make her last months better.

    And my story isn't unusual, it's one of millions. Yet we have people in this small town who want to ban the medical part of marijuana from people who need it and can't travel far away to get it.

    It's cruel. I wouldn't much care if they just wanted to ban cannabis just for recreational use in town, but that can't happen because medical and recreational marijuana is lumped together so if one goes, they both go.

    I fear the lack of empathy and information will do the cruelest thing and make positively sure the people who need this plant for illness/pain will be overlooked and forgotten, just because some apparently have lost their kindness somewhere along the line.

    (Post Script: The late Dr. David Hellyer, a renowned pediatrician, author of books on child care  and  founder of Northwest Trek told me he wasn't against the use of marijuana in adults. However, he was against its use by young kids. He was a tolerant and very well educated man.)

    Please see below for citizen and council comments about marijuana in the town limits during the last council meeting, December 11, 2017.


Near-Verbatim Transcript of Marijuana Discussion and Comments...

      December 11, 2017 Council Report

by Dixie A. Walter
January 5, 2018

During citizen comments,
Ron Heslop, Eatonville's municipal court judge in Bonney Lake, spoke about a trend he is seeing in his courtroom, and is being reported across the country. The major killer of individuals age 50 and younger in this country now is not heart attacks, not cancer. Its drug  overdose. ?Heroin addiction is not treatable, or recoverable without a medical component, meaning the shot. You can take care of meth, cocaine and marijuana by counseling, and changing their ways, but heroin is a killer? I just want to tell you that its a serious problem. He went on to say much of the heroin, in the form of Fentanyl, is being introduced into the U.S. from China.  

In citizen comments:

Dennis Clevenger:" I oppose the establishing of legalizing the sale of  marijuana, or cannabis, in Eatonville, based on the constitution of the United States, and the rule of law. In the early stages of our constitutional republic, the federal government established a national bank branch in Maryland. Maryland did not like the national bank idea, so they decided to tax that bank hoping to bring it to its end. In 1819, the Supreme Court ruled, in the case of McCulloch vs. Maryland, and said that federal law usurps state law.

"And Maryland, the state, lost that case. The Supreme Court has  never  changed that position. Federal law rules over state law if there is a conflict between federal law and state laws. In 1970, federal law classified cannabis as a dangerous drug. Congress has never overturned this law. In 2005 in Gonzales vs. Wright, the U.S. Supreme Court held that the federal government has the constitutional authority to prohibit marijuana for all purposes.

"An analogy to the marijuana proposal would be for me to stand outside the city limits of Eatonville with a sign saying that a person gets to decide what laws in Eatonville he or she wishes to obey, or which to disobey. I know that this would begin to create chaos, and would be wrong. This is potentially what I see for our nation. Either we are a nation of laws, with a constitution, establishing how the government is to function, plus a Bill of Rights to define the rights of people, or we believe in anarchy, or no laws at all.

"Article II, Section 3 of the Constitution says that he, the President of the United States, shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed or carried out. The oath the president takes says, I will, to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. The prior President said that he was not going to enforce marijuana laws, which led to several states passing laws allowing the sale of recreational marijuana, or cannabis.

"The state of Washington and other states have passed an  unconstitutional law, legalizing the sale of recreational marijuana, or cannabis. I always taught my students that the Constitution establishes a basis for the branches of government and their responsibilities. I also taught them how laws made by Congress and that federal law is always higher than state law. Without structure, chaos occurs.

"I always taught my sons that even though everyone does something illegal or wrong, that does not make it right, and they should stand alone, even if no one else joins them. With this in mind, I am asking the council to stand alone from what our state has unconstitutionally done, and do what is legal. Establishing any legalizing of marijuana, or cannabis, in Eatonville, violates the Constitution of the United States, federal law, and the ruling by the Supreme Court concerning when state law and federal law conflict. Federal law always usurps state law if there is a conflict between the two. I am asking the council to reject any proposal that will allow the selling of marijuana in Eatonville. Doing what is legal is more important that supporting an unconstitutional law."

Terry Van Eaton. "Good evening to my neighbors. I think when each of you took office, you took an oath to uphold the laws of the country. Is that oath still valid? Will you stand by what you said? Will you obey the law? If we have the ability to choose, which Dennis so succinctly pointed out, you can denigrate any law because you don't happen to agree with it, then we will have chaos. There is no great asset to a marijuana shop in Eatonville, unless we are looking at the taxes that you might collect. I don't want to sell my soul, and my town, for taxes on marijuana. So if we can pick out the laws that we choose, that I can say to the chief over here (pointing to the police chief), well, I don't have to obey that law. I don't like that one; it doesn't agree with my philosophy.

"This is a small town, and recently the state arrested multitudinous Chinese nationals for growing marijuana illegally - a little ironic, that they collected a million dollars worth of pot which they're now going to burn, in a state which says its okay to sell it. And they all claimed that they were ignorant of the law. In this case, we are not ignorant of the law. So we have elected you to represent us, but not to run over the top of us. And especially in the name of the law.

"Recently there have been some changes in attitude towards blackberries in this town. I'll just say that my relatives were [unintelligible] over this issue. And right in front of the Baptist Church, there is a huge lot which is covered with blackberries and brush. And I haven't seen a single thing done about that. So you discriminate. And I think that its pretty poor discrimination to choose people that have invested their lives, their home, and their children, in this community. And its pretty blatant when you persecute the doctor, and let the other people go. (Town clerk calls: Three minutes; Terry Van Eaton continues): So take that for whatever its worth."

Thomas Van Eaton, M.D. [brother of Terry Van Eaton) "I'm here to speak about the marijuana. (Reading) A 20-year study into the effects of long-term use of cannabis demolishes [inaudible] drug of safe use. Cannabis is highly addictive, causes medical problems, and opens the door to hard drugs, the study found. This paper was written by Professor Wayne Hall, a drug advisor for the World Health Organization. He works as a professor of addiction policy at Kings College of London. He says one in six teenagers who regularly smoke marijuana becomes an addict. Cannabis doubles the risk of psychogenic disorders, and clearly schizophrenia.

"Cannabis users do worse in school. Heavy users appear to have impaired intellectual development. One in ten adults who regularly smoke the drug become dependent on it, and are more likely to go on to harder drugs. Smoking cannabis doubles the risk of car crashes. The risk increases substantially if the driver has had something like alcohol to drink in addition. Smoking it during pregnancy reduces the weight of the baby.

"And, what contributes to marijuana use?: the availability of the drug; social norms surrounding the drugs use; and perceived harmfulness of the drug.

"And what's happened in this country, is that a lot of people use this drug. A lot of people grow it. And all they do is say, Well, it ain't hurting me. But they're not capable of giving themselves an IQ test to see if it really is or not. There's lots of evidence, and I've got a whole stack of papers if you want to read them, that says, this drug is addictive. If cannabis is not addictive, neither is heroin or alcohol. Is what this Professor Hall states. I've found that to be true in my time out on the
reservation with the natives, and I just think that if you want to collect money at the social expense of you're going to encourage people to use this drug, and impairing their function, fine.

"The trouble with marijuana is, it stays in your system for 30 days. And if you think you're not impaired and you are, and you have an accident, you're going to test positive for that drug. And you're going to be liable. As a physician for the last 45 years, I've never prescribed the drug. Its like
saying why not prescribe cigarettes; they calm your nerves. The health hazards way exceed the benefits that people are going to get from them. Anyway, I just don't think that the tax money is worth the social costs of the drug."

Louise Van Eaton  [wife of Dr. Van Eaton]  spoke next.  "I have three points about recreational marijuana sales in Eatonville. Tonight we said the pledge of allegiance. The council swore an oath of allegiance to federal and state laws when they were sworn in, and our town mission statement is to provide and protect the health, safety and the general welfare of our community. Our states top lawyer, the attorney general, determined that local governments can adopt outright bans of recreational marijuana. Even though the state has legalized it, we can say no to recreational sales here. When the federal government decides to enforce the law, those using, growing and selling can be prosecuted. That was my legal point.

"My second point is health. Alcohol and tobacco are legal under federal law. Their sales produce large tax revenues, but alcohol and tobacco cause problems. Alcoholics, car wrecks, fetal alcohol babies, [inaudible], etc.; tobacco causes lung cancer, COPD, emphysema, heart disease, even from second-hand smoke. Marijuana is usually smoked. It, like tobacco, has carcinogens and is addictive. The human brain isnt fully developed until age 25. One in six youths who use marijuana before the age of 18 develop a clinical diagnosis with marijuana disease for addiction dependence. This source comes from a Doctor [inaudible] in Colorado.

"Marijuana's active ingredient, THC, tetrahydrocannabidol, gives the high effect. This effect was only 3 percent but its now 8 percent because of the way marijuana is now produced by its growers. The THC high content [inaudible] to increase psychosis in some, and accelerates [inaudible] brain [inaudible].

"Financial. Revenue vs. regulation. How do you assess the cost of damage to a brain? Students dropping out of school. Not reaching their potential as a contributing member of society. The cost of rehabilitation, incarceration and jail [inaudible]. The cost to a family when a [inaudible] fails a drug test and loses their job. More impaired drivers, more accidents, more fatalities. How do you measure these costs? You do not need to adopt interim regulations. This community can say no to the sale of recreational marijuana. We want what's best for our citizens."

During discussion at the second reading of Ordinance 2017-15 there was a public hearing. Thomas Van Eaton, M.D., spoke again, citing an article in a 1982 issue of Cruiser News, written by a mother from the Washington State Mental Hospital, whose son was killed on 304th, under the influence of marijuana and alcohol. "How do you justify it? I've been a doctor for 45 years, and I haven't seen cigarettes, alcohol or marijuana make better people.

"?If you want to promote an idea that is obviously, by the World Health Organization, a dangerous drug, and violates the laws of the nation, and vote for this thing, then I won't respect you for anything. ?If you're going to sit up here and say you support the Constitution, and you pass a law that's obviously contrary to federal law, how can I respect you? Its got to be everybody for themselves, it sounds like around here. ?It's a bad idea.

"It's a gateway drug. It causes brain damage to adolescents up to age 25. By, quote, allowing it, you're saying it's okay. And the responsibility for the damage incurred toward youth and other people is going to have to fall back on you if you say, Well, the state says its legal. Also its going to undermine everybody's idea of what government represents. I served in the military and said I would uphold the Constitution, and put my life on the line whenever President Kennedy asked me to. I never thought I would see the day when states could pass laws that are contrary to federal law, and then think its okay."

Next, Louise Van Eaton spoke again. "I don't understand your urging to put in the interim regulations. My understanding from the attorney general, was that you could just say no, and then you wouldn't have to spend any of the time, effort or energy on introducing interim regulations. I know people in this town who grow marijuana because they want to use it. I know people who go and get it illegally. If they want to do that illegally, that's their choice. But for our town to say, we're providing an illegal substance, that's not right.

"Proximity makes it easier to have the [inaudible]. As you stated at the last meeting, probably the only place in our community where it could be, is just down there by the pawn shop, because, we have too many churches and schools placed in other areas. I don't think that's bad. T.C. Van Eaton, when he founded the town, in one of his statements said, good schools and good churches make a good community. Maybe because they do set a standard that should be held, instead of saying, I don't agree with this law. I'll do what I want.? You don't have to say, well it was a bother to say we hold a moratorium every six months, and then we have to bring it up again for another six months. I don't think that's a [inaudible]. Thank you."

Colin Stephens spoke next. "You know how I feel about it. We've talked about it every time it came up. [inaudible] in this town. It was supposed to go to a vote of the people. That was overlooked, and did what you wanted to do, I guess we'd say. One of the things was brought up that it will bring jobs and economic capital. What are we talking? Two, three people inside of a pot shop selling dope?

"And Yelm just had a deal saying they could get up to $64,000. And as we talked before, the state is going to be cutting these fundings back, three times I think in the next year? So what are we talking, $40,000 bucks? What's it going to cost us to cure the problems that its going to bring in? The people here are pretty clear that we don't want it. You can't go off the survey off Facebook, cause that's a joke. So, I think the people have spoken on what we want."

Len Throop was the next citizen to comment. "I'm going to speak in favor of it. I don't see anything wrong with it. In the past [inaudible] the people of Washington that marijuana is legal in this state. There is some revenue to be made, granted, but I say that we do it because it's legal in the state of Washington. How many other states have passed it since Washington? I believe four or five states for recreational use, as well as several others, for medical use. And it does definitely have a medical use within the state, within this country. And we can argue about federal law and state law, but as of today it is legal in the state of Washington, and I see no reason why it shouldn't be legal in the Town of Eatonville."

Dennis Clevenger then spoke again. "The analogy I'm thinking of is, I listened to our police chief talk, and it's like, if we expect him to obey the law and I know that he does but if we expect him to obey the law, and all of a sudden he comes to the mayor and says, You know, there are two laws that we have in the Town of Eatonville that I am just not going to enforce, exactly how would we feel under those circumstances? Because we might not like a law doesn't make it legal. Its either constitutional or its unconstitutional.

"The Supreme Court has ruled that it is unconstitutional. They have said that the states cannot override a federal law. The Supreme Court has defended the right of the federal government to pass a law, saying that marijuana is not to be allowed in our nation. And now were at a point where we're willing to say, because our state took a stand against the federal government that we're going to take the same stand against our federal government?

"That's chaos. That is anarchy. And I really believe it is the wrong approach to take. I would not want our police chief not to obey the laws. He's taken an oath to support that. I would assume that the town should be doing the same thing."

Mayor Schaub then asked if anyone else wished to speak.

Louise Van Eaton asked, "Are we allowed to speak again?" Not receiving a No from the mayor, she spoke again. "If you want recreational marijuana, if you want medical marijuana, you can get it at Yelm. You can get it on the way to Tacoma [inaudible] the name of the place. And yes, our citizens go there and get it. You know, if it were something that were not available, and it was essential, for, I mean, like, Arrow has a lot of things you'll need for a certain plumbing problem, a piece, so yes, we did have to go, for something that was essential. Recreational marijuana is not essential.

"I know of many people who say, Yes, I get marijuana for health reasons. I got it for my parents in their old age, or I get it in a crème. That still doesn't make it legal. I don't think our youth are going to go trying to get it [inaudible].

"But yes, if you want to be illegal, you can get it someplace else who voted to have sales of illegal [inaudible]. Does that mean we have to follow the lemmings?"

With no other citizen comments, the mayor then closed the public hearing.

Councilmember Jennie Hannah moved to table the matter for further discussion and/or a special study session. It received no second. She then withdrew her motion.

Councilmember Bob Thomas said he thought the comments  about the councils' oaths and the constitution were spot-on. He said the view that accepting legal use of recreational marijuana was a slippery slope argument. If you want to take the same principle that were advocating here in favor of retail sale of marijuana, substitute slavery. States rights against federal law. The principle, while not the substance, is exactly the same. ?As citizens of this country, we do not, nor should not, have the ability to selectively choose which laws we obey for that. Unfortunately, we had a chief executive for eight years in charge of the country that felt that he had the right to do that, and set a horrible constitutional precedent for the rest of the country?.

"As leaders in the community, I don't think that voting for this would be consistent with our oath. I don't think [it] would be consistent with the Town's mission statement. And based on my own personal experience with friends who are no longer with us, at least in part to drug use, I can't see possibly condoning the retail sale within Eatonville. I'm not responsible for the rest of the county or the state. I think that we as a town council can only do the right thing given the area of responsibility that we are charged with." Thomas then clarified the point of the ordinance as he saw it: If it passes here tonight, its an interim regulation, pending the Planning Commission, with public input, coming up with permanent regulations for the sale.

Councilmember Walter spoke next. "This is obviously an issue that a lot of people feel very strongly about, and you can just feel the emotion in the testimony as well. And I respect that and appreciate that.? However, the fact is, it is legal. Marijuana is legal in Eatonville, whether or not we approve these interim regulations. So I don't agree. If we are looking at it in terms of a few more local jobs, and we desperately need new businesses and new jobs, and a little bit of revenue, I don't think that should be discounted.

"I think that should be weighed along with everything else. I looked up on the Municipal Research Services Center [MRSC] site, as well as the Liquor Cannabis Board's (LCB) site, And
here are some stats that I found.

"Fourteen municipalities in the state? allow marijuana businesses, simply through their existing zoning ordinances for retail. Ninety four additional communities have established permanent zoning regs specifically allowing and regulating marijuana businesses. So that's 108.

"Seventy seven municipalities have enacted legislation prohibiting marijuana businesses. Thirty nine municipalities have taken no action. And by allowing our moratorium to terminate, we are now in that latter category of no action at this time. I believe that the state regulations are quite thorough and they've been fine-tuned over the last five years since 502's passage. I've learned that the LCB does routine checks of marijuana retail shops, just like they do at liquor stores, to test to find out if there are any sales to minors. Licenses can be revoked immediately if that happens, just like with liquor stores.

"Marijuana tax revenues statewide for 2016 were around $300 million in marijuana excise taxes. In Pierce County, $24.5 million, roughly, in excise tax revenues, generated by 27 retail outlets, 20 of those in cities and towns, and seven of them in unincorporated areas. Six million of that is to be distributed back to the cities and towns.

"Now that's not a lot for each, but in the 2017-2019 biennium, if the state tax revenues that are generated surpass forecasts, that $6 million could go up to as much as $18 million in funds allocated to cities and towns, through those excise taxes. That's just for that two-year biennium though. They're supposed to then go back down, to remain at what it is now, apparently. So I think these are things that we should keep in mind as we consider this.

Colin Stephens, you mentioned a Facebook poll. I don't know if the one that I'm going to mention is the one that you saw. But I do have a copy of a summary of total responses of a poll. (Walter passes it out to council and staff) The question was posed by William Lewis ?he asked how people thought about recreational marijuana businesses in town.

"And the respondents registered 234 Likes, 135 Dislikes and 16 of the Heart icons. So that's 250 positive, 135 negative. Another poll by Nick Junka: 230 said Yes, 135 No, 45 don't care." (Stephens asked how many of them live in town.) Walter: "These are Facebook friends of these people who live in the Eatonville area."

Walter then described meeting a council member from the city of South Bend, who is also the clerk-treasurer in nearby Raymond, where several new marijuana businesses mostly production, with one retail outlet had been established. He said asked her if these new marijuana businesses had any noticeable impact on property values. And that she said, No. She said, in fact, you can't find a home to buy or a rental in the South Bend-Raymond area.

Councilmember Bill Dunn spoke next, saying  that federal  law is not  necessary automatically pre-emptive of state law. "It's not necessarily so cut and dried. And I think there's a message to be received in the fact, that in the five years since the passage of this initiative, the federal government hasn't taken any significant steps to indicate its intent on initiating any type of pre-emption litigation. And quite honestly, until the federal government tells the State of Washington, You can't do this, I'll be of the position of the State of Washington."

Next was Councilmember Schrimpsher. ?"There's a little clarification of Councilmember Walter's budget numbers. The Liquor and Cannabis Board and the Governors budget, correct me if I'm wrong, unless I read the budget wrong - they plan to cut the 12 million down to six, and six down to three, by '19? You heard our judge earlier, saying drug DUIs are up. I asked for a study to be obtained from the town staff, that was done by the University of Washington and the King County Health Department which proves that to be true and correct. Young youth drug DUIs are up dramatically, and its attributed to the legalization of marijuana. So, lets get back to the rule of law."

Schrimpsher then complained that the town  staff did not  follow the resolution passed earlier by council authorizing an advisory vote. He said the advisory vote was to be conducted at the end of the moratorium, and the staff ignored it. He then said the research that he's done on real estate websites shows that property values have declined around marijuana businesses in the State of Washington. He then said he talked with two men who where inspecting a property in his neighborhood who told him they were planning on opening up a marijuana shop there.

"So, I've been opposed to this since it came up, and I agree that we  are in direct contrast with federal law. And yes, I believe that the State of Washington thumbed their nose at the federal government. And if that's the will of the people outside this venue, then so be it. But I, like many other people in this room, raised my right hand and swore to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, well before I was a councilman.

"My oath is to the Constitution. My oath is also to the people, and I do not think that marijuana is within the best interest of the people. And I also think that passing interim regulations would create a loophole for somebody that plans to get a marijuana shop up and running in this town. So, they get it up and running under the interim regulations, we set different regulations, we cannot hold them to those different regulations, because they came in they'd have to be grandfathered. So were creating a legal quandary for ourselves.

As slow as things move in this body and through the Planning Commission, I have no faith that we could get permanent regulations done in time to regulate anything that would be coming down the pike. Just don't do it. Things just move slow here. He concluded by saying he feels the Town should just ban it [a retail marijuana business], until an advisory vote can be conducted, and, if the people say it's time for marijuana to come into this town, then let's do it."

Councilmember Jennie Hannah spoke next. "This a tough one for me. I've always said that my position up here was to represent the citizens of Eatonville, not my own agenda. I don't have a horse in this race. My vote is, ninety nine percent of the time, going to be a fiscal one. That being said, the representation here, for the populace against this, has spoken volumes, and it's left me in a quandary. I came in here tonight, steadfast in my decision, and my most revered, respected teacher is here tonight, and I don't know what to do. So I'm almost inclined to make a motion that we ban the sale in Eatonville, rather than send this ordinance to the Planning Commission."

Discussion followed about Parliamentary Procedure. The ordinance before the council had to be dealt with first, before another, potentially conflicting, motion could be considered. Schrimpsher then asked for a roll call vote on Ordinance 2017-15 establishing interim regulations. The ordinance failed 2-3, with Dunn and Walter voting "Yes" and Schrimpsher, Thomas and Hannah voting "No."

Schrimpsher then moved to ban the sale of marijuana until an advisory vote of the public can be done. Thomas seconded. Town Clerk Kathy Linnemeyer clarified that a public hearing was part of the ordinance process, as well as each moratorium continuation, and a public hearing would again need to be noticed and held before a ban could be enacted.

Schrimpsher then rescinded his motion, and changed it to, begin the process of banning marijuana within the town limits of Eatonville, until an advisory vote takes place. "I'm not asking for a moratorium. I'm asking for a ban."

Thomas said he felt production and processing should be included in addition to retail, in the motion, at which Schrimpsher amended his motion to include them. Dunn asked for clarification that a vote against Schrimpsher's motion would essentially be a vote in favor of there being no regulations other than those imposed by the state.

The motion passed, 4-1, with
Walter being the only "No" vote.

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  “The amount of money and of legal energy being given to prosecute hundreds of thousands of Americans who are caught with a few ounces of marijuana in their jeans simply makes no sense - the kindest way to put it. A sterner way to put it is that it is an outrage, an imposition on basic civil liberties and on the reasonable expenditure of social energy.”

~William F. Buckley Jr.




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