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Council Report January 22, 2018
Includes
Marijuana Public Hearing
Public Hearing in Blue - Regular Meeting in Black

      by Dixie A. Walter
        February 10, 2018

     At the start of the meeting, citizen Karelina Resnick stood at her seat and declared a "point of order" regarding the public hearing on the agenda not being duly noticed in advance in the Town's newspaper. Mayor Mike Schaub said, It was [noticed]. "It was on the Town Hall readerboard, it was in the News Tribune, it was at the Post Office, and it was in Facebook, so we did post in as many sources as we could." Resnick said, "But not the Dispatch?" To which Schaub replied, "The Dispatch, it was just a timing on the Dispatch to be able to get it in for the, and that's why we had to get it in the News Tribune."

    In citizen comments, Dixie Walter urged everyone in the audience and on the council to be sure when commenting to speak into the microphone because when transcribing the council meetings too often important comments aren't picked up by the recorder.

    In staff reports, Police Chief Brian Witt thanked Mayor Schaub and Town Administrator Abby Gribi for representing the Town at the memorial service for Deputy Dan McCartney, and everyone else who helped with coverage. The state audited the department's physical security and policies and procedures, which was all positive. Witt said eight people attended the second Coffee with the Chiefs on January 11 (the second Wednesday of the month). The next one will occur at 9 a.m. on February 14 at Bruno's Restaurant. The locations rotate between the Cottage Bakery, Cruiser Café and Bruno's.

    Gribi reported some trees were being removed around the Hilltop reservoir, and abatement work will be started on some mold at the Glacier View Park kitchen Friday, January 26. Parametrix has issued a preliminary draft update on the wastewater treatment plant. Some clearing work has also been done around the Community Center for better security. She has submitted a Community Development Block Grant (CDBG) for the Keybank building.

    The school district has asked about possible safety enhancement through impact fees, which she is researching. The mayor will be hosting his first informational meeting over coffee at the Cottage Bakery on Monday, January 29, similar to what the chiefs are doing. And there will be a parade of students and staff Friday, January 26 at 9:30 a.m. from Eatonville Elementary through downtown, to celebrate the school's progress, "going from the bottom five percent in the state's schools to the top five percent" last year.

    Councilmember Bill Dunn reported on the ad hoc Sign Code Review Committee meeting, discussing the intent of the sign code, modifications to the code suggested by the town attorney, implementing a thematic signage design (examples: logging or western theme), the current code's business sign size limitations and whether to reevaluate and possibly modify them, the possibility of a town-owned, billboard-type device that businesses could advertise on.

    His committee also discussed the group of business owners who are talking about possible "traffic flow" change proposals, and how the sign code may impact that. The committee changed its meeting schedule to the third Thursday at 5 p.m. at the Visitor Center.

    Councilmember Jennie Hannah reported on the Finance Committee meeting held on January 16, which also discussed impact fees and a property the town has paid off by making additional payments.

    Hannah also talked about the Utilities Committee Meeting that followed the Finance meeting. A possible increase in water rates, which have not had a significant increase for over seven years, was talked about. Also, going forward, if a property is required to conduct a fire flow test that exerts pressure on the water system, a fee for the test should be charged.

    Mayor Mike Schaub said he attended the memorial service for Deputy McCartney, and remarked on the size of the procession and number of onlookers, as well as the many contributions to the community that the deputy had made in addition to his duties as a deputy.

     Schaub thanked the Eatonville Police staff as well as that of the City of Algona, where Councilmember James Schrimpsher works as a sergeant. Those officers filled in where needed in the county during the memorial. The Pierce County Regional Council (PCRC) General Assembly is February 15 at 5:30 at the Bates Campus on 19th Street in Tacoma, that all council members are invited to attend. Councilmembers

     Schrimpsher and Dunn are representative  and alternate,  respectively, for the PCRC regular monthly meetings, where transportation funding and other issues are discussed.

Public Hearing on Cannabis Ban

    Ordinance 2018-1, to prohibit marijuana businesses in town, was next on the agenda. This was its second reading, and included a public hearing. Mayor Schaub then opened the public hearing:

   Excerpt from a proponent letter to council for cannabis business. See entire letter at bottom of this report.

"Just Because One Person Doesn’t use Pot, Doesn’t Give That Person the Right to Stand in the Way of People that Do Use or Want To."
                                                              ~  Citizen Amy Rounds

     Louise Van Eaton Spoke First

"Cannabis in Not a Recreational Drug, and Those who Want to use it Medically Should Petition the Federal Drug Administration to do Research..."
                                                  
 ~
Citizen Louise Van Eaton

     Louise Van Eaton spoke first. She shared information  published by the Washington  State Department of Health, describing how, "marijuana is still a federally-illegal, Schedule 1 controlled substance, and violations of federal law are taken seriously by medical boards and employers. Its detection in one's system through random testing or for-cause, toxicology testing can result in termination of employment, and this has been upheld by the Supreme Court of Colorado (Coates v. Dish Network).

    "Cognitive or thinking dysfunction among current cannabis users is not controversial. In a 2017 review of over 10,000 cannabis research abstracts, the National Academy of Sciences concluded that current cannabis use is associated with deficits in learning, memory and attention, and that it may be permanent in some cases. In 2009 there was a review on abnormalities, whether it was EEG, PET scans and MRI scans, and persisted hours and days. After the last cannabis use, they found that there were defects in learning, memory and attention.

     "Airline pilots have demonstrated significantly more impairment in control in flight simulations, 24 hours after smoking a single, low-potency joint. Thus the cognitive effects of recent cannabis use, may well translate to functional performance deficits, especially involving complex tasks, like driving a car. Cannabis users may dismiss these concerns as prohibitionist propaganda, but Bertha (inaubible), PhD., Department Professor of Psychobiology, an internationally-recognized expert on cannabis and cognitive, or thinking, offered this response, 'This is not a war on drugs, it is the defense of our brain.'

     "I have concluded that having a cannabis store in our community would make our citizens feel that marijuana use is harmless, when our State of Washington Department of Health reports it is harmful. Cannabis is not a recreational drug, and those who want to use it medically should petition the Federal Drug Administration to do research on this drug to discover its use as a legally-prescribed drug for appropriate patients."

    Dr.
Tom Van Eaton spoke next: "The health department said that Washington physicians have been treated for cannabis dependency, and they found cannabis-using physicians unfit for practice based on neuro-cognitive testing, regardless of whether (inaudible) criteria (inaudible) cannabis use is ordered. So, fortunately, all have been returned to practice following a sustained period of abstinence. So, what I want to say is, just like the State of Washington, the governor and other people like the tax money, but there are consequences, and they're not good. I think that when you consider that one in six (inaudible) using cannabis become addicted, I think we set a poor example advocating it. Thank you."

"We voted to Legalize Marijuana in Washington
State for Good Reasons..."

                                                           
~
Citizen Karelina Resnick

     Karelina Resnick then came to the microphone and spoke, saying, "Regretfully, not having seen any public notice, I have a very sketchy comment to read to you. We voted to legalize marijuana in Washington State for good reasons,.

     To ensure medical marijuana is available; provide much-needed tax relief, offer an alternative to addictive opioid drugs, and hopefully decrease the addiction; provide local access to marijuana for the sick, elderly and handicapped, and others unable to drive long distances. And ensure untainted, government-supervised marijuana; eliminate or minimally decrease black market drugs; offer a safer, healthier alternative for recreational use, for both users and the community, than alcohol.

    Cutting alcohol will decrease violence, accidents and spouse abuse, another reason for tourists to stop in Eatonville. These are all good reasons. I would have documented if I'd known we had a meeting today. So I'm sorry, I couldn't do that."

"I'm kind of what a stoner looks like here in Eatonville. I'm a grandma, and grandmas pose very little threat to the Eatonville Police Department..."
                                                                                        
 
~ Citizen Roni Johnson

     Roni Johnson: "Hi, my name is Roni Johnson, and, if you guys haven't figured it out by now, I'm kind of what a stoner looks like here in Eatonville. I'm a grandma, and grandmas pose very little threat to the Eatonville Police Department. But yet, I am one of the ones who would benefit the most from a store in this town. We now have alternatives to mainstream medicine and Big Pharma.

     We know uppers are bad, downers are bad, pain pills are bad, opioids are really bad. And if you have glasses good enough to read the little tiny print on all the paperwork that comes with all those drugs, you can tell that the side effects are even worse than some of the problems you had in the first place.

    "And we have new alternatives for pain meds. We have CBD oils that do not get you high. You can take them in pill form. There are salves to put on muscles and joints and all that; and they work. And there are pain pills, CBD pills. There's stuff to rub on you. It's a veritable drug store in a weed shop.

    "And anybody who's been in to a store has probably, or definitely, had to go through showing your ID as soon as you walk in the door. No kids get in the door. Its grandmas like me; it's grandpas. It's your aunts, your uncles. It's the largest users, of marijuana now, in the state, are senior citizens.

     And if we can't get it here in Eatonville, at some point I may not even be able to drive around. What would I do if I had a prescription? I can't get my prescription, for somebody else to pick it up for me, because it is so controlled by the state, that it's impossible to do. You have to go there yourself to pick it up.

    "At the last meeting, I was listening to...Sergeant
Schrimpsher, and I was really concerned about some of the stuff that I heard about in there. So I started doing some research of my own. And I went around to several pot stores in between Puyallup and Olympia.

     And, what I found out was, stores are pretty well surrounded by security. At several of them, there's cameras from every angle. You walk in the door, you show your ID, and he's got a screen that shows you walking in the door. I mean, if there was something going on at night, they would know exactly what was going on at night. So anyway, you obviously can tell that I am for a store here in town. And thank you for your time."

"...From a Business Standpoint, I Truly Believe That Eatonville Does Carry Kind of a Negative Connotation About Trying to Promote New Business..."
                              
~ Businessman Arrow Lumber Steve Putney

     Steve Putney: "I'm a resident for 18 years here in Eatonville, and I just want to thank you for allowing us to come and talk today. I'm not a real confident person coming up and speaking in front of people, but after I read the ad in the Dispatch here, the story, and it started off by saying, 'Council on the verge of banning marijuana.' And I know that there had been some previous meetings regarding this, but it seemed kind of disingenuous, I guess, to me that were getting an opportunity to speak today, but it sounds like your mind is already made up for the most part, by the council.

    "And I struggle with that, thinking that I know people came and spoke, and there was some opposition. Some things I guess make very good points - Dr. Van Eaton, of course - you can't argue with points like that.

    "But from a business standpoint, I truly believe that Eatonville does carry kind of a negative connotation about trying to promote new business. We talk about it at our chamber meetings; what can we do? It seems to me it's difficult to promote a business when we turn around and say that we don't want a business that has been approved by the voters of this state. It seems to be working in a lot of communities.

     Although I don't necessarily promote marijuana use; I'm not a user myself. I know people that are on both sides of that coin. There are some people that certainly struggle with it. But I think it has been a benefit for a lot of folks.

    "If the people are going to drive to Puyallup, or Spanaway or wherever, Yelm, they can now go get that product, those people would have to travel a fair amount of distance from here. I think of folks in Ashford and other outlying communities that're using that for their own benefit, whether it be medical or whatever use it is. I just would ask the council that you're giving it good consideration.

    "I took a straw poll amongst the people I work with and it seems like, I don't hear the negativity about passing this, you know, being a bad idea for Eatonville. I know there was a comment made about not following our federal law and the state is going against that, and my thought was, we could probably all still be colonists of England if we chose that there was never a better way to go around and maybe make some new laws of our own. And I do want to thank you all very much."

"I Oppose Establishing the Legal Sale of Recreational Marijuana in Eatonville, Based on the Constitution and the Rule of Law..."
                                          
~ Citizen Dennis Clevenger

    Dennis Clevenger: "Many of the things I'm going to say, I have said before, but I've added some things. I oppose establishing the legal sale of recreational marijuana in Eatonville, based on the constitution and the rule of law. In the early stages of our constitutional republic, the federal government established a national bank with a branch in Maryland. Maryland, being a state, decided they did not like the national bank idea, and planned to place a tax on that bank, hoping that that would kill the federal bank that had been established. In 1819, the Supreme Court ruled, in the case of McCulloch vs. Maryland, and said that federal law usurps state law. And
Maryland, the state, lost that case.

    "The Supreme Court has never changed that position. Federal law rules over state law if there is a conflict between the two. In 1970, federal law classified cannabis as a dangerous drug. Congress has never overturned this law. In 2005 in Gonzales vs. Wright, the United States Supreme Court held that the federal government has the constitutional authority to prohibit marijuana for all purposes.

    "I gave an analogy last time, and I decided to change my analogy. My analogy  to this marijuana thing would be the chief of police has decided in the Town of Eatonville that he - by the way, this is made up - ?that he no longer supports a 25-mile-an-hour speed limit because it slows down the traffic. And he has now informed his officers that he wants tickets only issued to anyone that goes 40 or more in the town. You can begin to see that there's going to be a conflict here.

    "And I'm using the police chief as the state, and the council as the federal government. We have an established 25-mile-an-hour speed limit. If someone decides, in an authority position, that that person wishes to go against the council's direction, something has to be done. Someone is wrong. And I think in this situation, based on my perspective, the police chief would be wrong, because the council has established that law. And it would be up to him to decide that he is going to support that law.

    "In Article II, Section 3 of the Constitution, it says that he, the President, shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed or carried out. The oath of the president says, I will, to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. The prior president said that he was not going to enforce marijuana laws, which led to several states passing laws allowing the sale of recreational marijuana. Article 6, Clause II of the Constitution provides that the Constitution, federal laws, and all treaties, constitute the supreme law of the land. It provides that state courts are bound by the supreme law of the land. When I was teaching it was normally just referred to as the supreme law of the land.

    "Sometimes, individuals think that they can look at the Constitution and say it's a living document. If the Constitution in its written form is a living document, then we have nothing that supports our rights, and nothing in there that supports the protections provided under the Bill of Rights.

    "The state of Washington and other states have passed an unconstitutional law, legalizing the sale of recreational marijuana. I always taught my students that the Constitution establishes the basis for the branches of government and their responsibilities. I also taught them how laws [are] made by Congress and that federal law is always higher than state law. Without structure, chaos or anarchy occurs. I have always taught my sons that even though everyone does something illegal or wrong, it does not make it right, and they should stand alone, even if no one else joins them.

    "With this in mind, I'm asking the council to take a stand from what our state has unconstitutionally done, and do what is legal. Establishing any legalizing of marijuana in Eatonville, violates the Constitution of the United States, federal law, and the rulings of the Supreme Court concerning when state and federal law conflict. Federal law always usurps state law. I've asked the council to reject any proposal that will allow the selling of marijuana in Eatonville. Doing what is legal is still more important than supporting an unconstitutional law.

    "And one final thing I was thinking about. We fought a civil war because there were several southern states that decided they could defy the federal government and go their own way. We now have several states defying the federal government and choosing to go their own way. All I can say is, this does not build the heart of our people to be what we once called the United States. And it now seems like we are approaching 50 individual states choosing to do what they want to do, when they want to do that. I'm just saying I believe that is wrong. I believe in the rule of law. I believe in our Constitution, and I still believe we are the United States of America.

"I Think we Need to Bring Revenue into our Town...If You Drive Up and Down the Main Road, There's Nothing."
                                                             
~ Citizen Erica Conn

     Erica Conn: (There was a  brief problem with the microphone at the beginning of her comments.)
"My thing is, we, as citizens, voted to have marijuana legalized. So I think we have to follow that call. As far as money goes, I just read an article in the Tacoma News Tribune that 730 million dollars will be made in the next
two years in marijuana revenue.

    Sixty percent of that goes towards public health programs, substance abuse efforts and community health centers; 211 million dollars will be used on our state operating budget. And there are a lot of our representatives who were against it, who are now for it. And I think that we need to take a look at why they are for it now.

    "So, I think we need to bring revenue into our town. I mean, if you drive up and down the main road, there's nothing. So I think that people who drive through here and go to the mountain would-- If you look at every other town in our area, Spanaway, Puyallup they're everywhere; they're on every corner, almost. And they're making a quadrillion dollars. And I think that we could really partake in that.

    If you disagree with smoking weed, that's fine. You don't have to smoke it, but there are people who need it, like that lady right there [Gestures toward another audience member.]. And, like, a whole bunch of other people...

    "The National Institute on Drug Abuse says that marijuana is  not a gateway drug, like you want us to believe. I think that's very important. Like I said, if you don't like marijuana, that's fine, you don't have to use it. It's just like having the bars in town. If you don't want to drink, you don't have to go in there.

     I'm a bartender, so I could tell you how many people drive under the influence every night. It's not good, but it happens; I'm sure you - officer - know that. So to say that we shouldn't have weed in the town because it's going to make people drive differently, or act differently, we could say the same thing about alcohol. To somebody's point that we'd have children using marijuana, we could say the same thing about cigarettes. How many kids are standing outside the Shell station asking for people to go in and buy them cigarettes or liquor? We just have to say no.

    "I think that the arguments for marijuana in our town are very, very good. We need something. If we don't get a weed store, we better get something, because our town is just going under. What scares me is people who can't drive to Spanaway, and who can't drive to Puyallup, I really feel for them. My mom, at the end of her life, was kind of smoking. Her doctor told her it was good for her, for anxiety. She couldn't drive, so if she didn't have me, how would she have gotten it? She can't get on the bus.

    "So I think there are a lot of things in our town that we need for people, not  just weed stores but other things. And so we probably should take a look at, why our town is going under. And why there are so few businesses in our town? I think that probably is for another meeting, but we should probably think about getting some revenue into our town and how we can do it, and how we can get more tourists to come. A lot of my friends are like, Gosh, you live in Eatonville? and I'm like, Yeah. And they're like, There's nothing there. And I'm like, No, sure there is; there's a restaurant, and - and they're like, Yes, but there's no McDonalds; there's nothing that, like, brings people in.

    "I don't know that a weed store would be like this big, shiny, flashy thing to bring people in. But I think that it will at least let people know that we're kind of in with the times, maybe? I've been arguing about this very topic now for, like, two straight days online.

    "I'm tired. Its people who are putting their values on somebody else. You can choose not to like it, but other people probably need it. And I don't know if you guys have already made up your mind. I don't know if it's going to come to a vote, for us. Is it going to come to a vote for the whole-- for everybody?

    "Okay. I think you guys will see, once it comes down for a vote, where the lines are, how it's divided. The Town's going to be pretty divided. I think when you look at the revenue that it brings in, 730 million dollars is a lot of money, that we could really use for our police, our firefighters (inaudible) fire at the liquor store, and there was nobody there to really help. I mean we could really use some extra money for that. So, that's all I have to say. Thank you."

"I Would Like to See That [Cannabis Store] Here Just for the Business. I Know the Black Market has Increased..."
                      
~Businessman Four Winds Gallery David Craig

     David Craig: "There's a few businesses that are still in town, but I agree. Like [former Eatonville Mayor] Cliff Murphy would say, 'The rising tide floats all boats.' I would like to see that here just for the business. I know the black market has increased out here, when that one at the [former] cop shop closed, yeah, it drove the black market up. Some people still go into town, to Spanaway, Tacoma, wherever, but that has happened out here. And I don't like to see that. So, I am proud to be an American. I duly love the Constitution, by the people. This state did vote for it. More than half the states are approved medical.

    "Now I'm a huge advocate for medical marijuana. You met my daughter. You can go online and you can find any doctor who's going to disagree. And I can tell you I have seen hundreds, or thousands, of testimonies from doctors, on medical marijuana. And I really do trust the folks up at Children's Hospital, that I put my daughter in their hands. You know her; you know she couldn't talk two years ago, no more seizures. Its been incredible for us.

    "Someone mentioned the liquor store. I never went in it. But one of the first things I ever toured in Eatonville when I moved here, if you've ever been to the speakeasy, at the old mill, where you slide the bookcase down, and you go to the old speakeasy. Where during prohibition, you know, the town leaders were sneaking down there to drink their whiskey. And that's just been kind of Eatonville's history, which I kind of admire.

    "Even the local AA group here. People outside of this area know the AA group as being just a little different. Eatonville is a little different; we don't follow all the rules by submitting all that we're supposed to. We're known as a spiritual group out here. I don't know why; its a good group. If you don't want marijuana, you don't have to go get it. None of that I was going to say; I had other things I was going to say.

    "I did fact check. I got transcripts of the last few meetings. I gotta say this. I even spoke to the mayor and some of you after the last meeting. I was really disappointed. This isn't my first show; I've been to lots of city, and town, tribal councils, I was on the Planning Commission a couple of terms, committees. I know how this works, and I saw things last meeting I've never seen before. And a level of disrespect toward some speakers, and a level of disrespect from council members toward other members. And I want to say this, that we have some strong leadership up here right now.

    "So I come here because I care. And I want to hear what each one of you has to say. Ms.
Van Eaton said a couple of meetings ago, We need to try to be nice to one another. I was stunned. One councilman would ask a question and immediately interrupt the answer. That needs to stop. I read through the transcripts, and I was really stunned by... What's happening here? I don't know, but I hope it gets cleaned up. From being out there and watching all of it, I wanted to hear what you had to say. I wanted to hear what Bob Walter had to say. But there were too many interruptions.

    "That spurred me to kind of fact check some stuff. We were compared to Covington. So I looked up Covington. And I'm sure you guys know, Covington's crime rate is 77 percent higher than any other city in the state of Washington of its size and population. That is not a comparison to Eatonville. And lines were being drawn about those two marijuana shops, and a handful of burglaries.

     That's true, there was truth, but there was a whole bigger picture of the crime that's happening in Covington, that has nothing to do with the pot. And the $93,000, that I think you said was coming into the town, isn't enough to pay for a cop, but in comparison, that's a lot more than most of the small businesses in Covington. So it's more than a hundred grand, that that town has seen from two little businesses that sell weed.

    "Hey, we voted for it in this state. If you want a dry town then make it a dry town. See how that goes. That's my two cents. I do hope we get a higher level of respect for each council member and respect for-- We're here because we care. We appreciate you listening, and that's all I have at this time. Thank you."

According to a Man who Works at a Marijuana Shop in Buckely, They have Absolutely “No Problems with the Police, Crime has Decreased Significantly, They Brought in Enough Money to Hire a Full-Time Officer and Funded a Traffic Light...”
                                                            ~
Citizen Dixie Walter

    Dixie Walter: "David [Craig] said $93,000 went to Covington, but I think when that was being discussed, I think you meant Buckley. (Schrimpsher concurred.) And you had a thing here, the estimate through September 27th, $5,066, and then for the fiscal year, but it says marijuana enforcement $93,000 (Schrimpsher confirmed that was for Buckley.) I'm kind of confused on that.

    I happened to run into a woman last week who lives in Buckley, so I asked if there was a marijuana store in Buckley. She said, 'Yeah, there's a couple.' She said, 'They are so well run. They're so well organized. They're better run than most of the businesses that I know.' And she explained some stuff to me.

    "So I called them, and I talked to [a man at] Mr. Bill's Marijuana Shop. He said they have absolutely no problems with the police. In fact, he said the police come to them for help. He said if there's a problem at a bar down the street, the police will call and say, Can we borrow your security cameras?

     They brought in enough money to hire a full-time officer.  They somehow funded a traffic light. There's all these good things. He's saying they have so much security that nobody can get in there. In fact, in one place, Mr. Bills, you go in a door and they check you, and then you have to exit from another place. I guess that's so people can't sneak stuff out.

    "I asked him if there had ever been any problems, like with people waiting outside to try to get the marijuana or something. He said, No, the worst thing we had happen here, was a man urinating on the outside wall, and that was from alcohol. This is what he told me: Teen drug use is the lowest in 20 years.

    "Crime has decreased significantly, because the black market is not the main supplier any more. Great relationship with the cops. They said that the shop owner, who is not the person I talked to, is really big on charity, and helping the community. Buckley is about 5,000 people.

    The man I talked to also brought up the medical part. Because his mother has epilepsy...And he said she has been using medical marijuana for ten years, and has not had a convulsion since then. No seizures in ten years with medical marijuana.

    "Then I talked with the manager of The Green Door in Buckley?, and she said, 'Of course, we've got good security. Everybody does. We have no problems. We have a good working relationship with the police. No problems at all.' Nobody seems to hate it in Buckley at all. They seem to be just fine and happy with it. It's bringing in some kind of money. They hired a cop. And they could pay for it. So I don't know what you're point was about them not making enough money to hire a cop, but apparently, they did. You can call them, Mr. Bill's and The Green Door, both in Buckley. No problem. No problem."

"On the Medical Aspect of Marijuana, I Can Say First Hand, as a Caregiver, it Does Help with Seizures."
                                                                      ~ Citizen Len Throop

     Len Throop: "I was here at the meeting two months ago. On the medical aspect of marijuana, I can say first hand, as a caregiver, it does help with seizures. That's all I'll say about that. But I'm more curious about how this is proceeding. As I recall, two months ago, council member Schrimpsher said, with an advisory vote. Is that vote going to happen, before you make a decision? I would like to propose that it be a binding vote by the
citizens of Eatonville."

    
Schrimpsher: "I think if you read the resolution, that it's going to be. We're merely banning marijuana until an advisory vote can be held..."

    
Throop: "So when will this vote be held? (Schaub responded, 'The general election.') As you pointed out at that meeting in December, there was supposed to be an advisory vote on the moratorium, and it didn't happen."

    
Schrimpsher: "That's up to the city staff when that vote can get on the ballot."

    
Throop: "I would like to make it a binding vote by the citizens of Eatonville. Take it out of your
hands. Obviously, there's a lot of points made by both sides. I'm not going to say one side or the other is wrong.
Personally, I'm for the sale of marijuana in Eatonville, but I'm just one person. I say, put it before the people of Eatonville. Not an advisory vote, because there's nothing that binds you to that advisory vote. Am I not correct? You don't have to follow that vote at all. So I say make it a binding vote. That's all I've got to say. Thank you."

"I would be really interested in the percentage of medical sales compared to recreational sales... I'm not against medical marijuana at all, period."
                                                           
~ Citizen Joe Hagen

     Joe Hagen: "I've been a citizen/resident of Eatonville for about 12 years now. And when I first moved here in Eatonville, I actually was convinced to move out here by some friend of ours, with the Pierce County Sheriff, in fact. And he, they, kept talking about how great it was out here, peaceful, no crime, great place to raise our kids. At that time we had three kids. We have five now. And schools are great. Although? homeschooled (inaudible). But it was a great place to move. And it took us awhile, but we finally did?. We didn't lock our doors. We kept our front door open, our car doors. It was a great place.

    "Twelve years later, I think I hear at least once a week, there's a break-in to a business, there's vandalism, there's fires, there's different things like that happening. I'm not contributing that to marijuana; I'm not contributing that to heroin use, or meth, or any of that. What I'm saying is that the trend, of the peacefulness, of living in this town, has gone down. I would imagine that having people that are smoking marijuana-- I'd be interested to find out what percentage of the sales are medical and what percentage of them are recreational. Because we all know the recreational smoking of marijuana does cause problems. Driving, as well as alcohol (inaudible) marijuana. And it will contribute to the decay of the peacefulness in town. I believe it would.

    "So, we have five kids that we're raising. I don't plan on leaving Eatonville. I don't think I could ever sell my house anyway. I love this town. I've always loved it. I've worked with Bob Walter on the Centennial back in 2009. I've worked with some other people in this town on different events. And I do. I love the town. A lot of people think I don't, that I'm an angry person. I'm a very peaceful type of person, actually.

    "But I've had some personal experiences, and I know a lot of people that have had a lot of bad experiences with marijuana. And based on some of the anger and the personal attacks and everything from people that are for marijuana (inaudible), that's the type of people that we're going to attract. I would be really interested in the percentage of medical sales compared to recreational sales. And I'm not against medical marijuana at all, period. If it was only a store that sold medical marijuana, for medical use, like is done at a pharmacy, I'd be all for it, 100 percent. And that's all I have to say. I appreciate your time. Thank you."

    There being no more citizens wishing to comment, Mayor Schaub then closed the public hearing, which brought the discussion on the ordinance to the council itself.

Regular Meeting Resumes Council Discussion Regarding Cannabis Business in Town...

"It is Very Difficult to be One of Five People Making Decisions for Several Thousand, and Not be Given any Input on These Matters, Until Now." 
                                         
~ Councilmember Jennie Hannah

     Councilmember Jennie Hannah spoke first, reading a prepared statement: "As I've stated before my vote will almost always be an economic or fiscal one. My vote may not always represent my own opinion or personal beliefs, but hopefully that of the citizens.

    "As a council person, I support business and managed growth, and last year voted in a manner that removed the moratorium preventing retail marijuana sales in Eatonville. I truly thought as a town we were ready to move forward and allow a state-recognized, legal business to operate. Going forward in this process, a surprisingly high number have been decidedly against it. For every study and statistic provided to us in favor, there have been studies and statistics provided against. An equal number of citizens, for the most part, standing up, one side or the other.

    "I recognize the medicinal qualities of marijuana, and I have no judgment on recreational use. And as I've said before, I would prefer this issue be put to a vote of the people, and believe we have been guaranteed an advisory vote this year. I appreciate the citizens that have taken the time to have their voices heard at the various meetings we've had on this subject. It is very difficult to be one of five people making decisions for several thousand, and not be given any input on these matters, until now.

    "Now that this topic has needlessly divided this town, I would like to share some facts I have regarding taxing and licensing such a business. In my many hours of research I have yet to come up with an actual dollar figure or explanation as to how money is distributed to participating jurisdictions. We are only guaranteed the one percent portion of sales tax. Most of the 37 percent sales tax (Publisher's note: Hannah probably meant to say excise tax in this instance.) is used to study the effects of pot use and to educate minors why not to use it. Each year since I-502 passed, less and less money is actually going back to the cities and towns that have stores.

    "I am equally frustrated with the appearance of town and all the vacant structures, but for those of you who think they can go get a pot license and set up shop, that's not the case. So the public notion that council is
anti-business by not allowing a pot shop is false. Nearly all the licenses issued in Washington State are active and in use. The LCB is not currently accepting any applications and, if current license holders have their way,
perhaps indefinitely. Although licenses are transferable from one person to another, they have to remain within the jurisdiction they are issued.

    "It is my understanding that only 17 licenses were issued for Pierce County. And license holders, although they can request a change of location within their jurisdiction, would still have to adhere to the 1000-foot buffer required by the LCB to sensitive areas such as schools, daycares, parks, arcades, playgrounds, libraries, recreation centers. So I asked, where in the town limits could a shop really end up? It is hard to forecast if
Eatonville would be a smart business move for a current license holder. I'd much prefer to utilize the vacant spaces in town for things that would attract children, such as an arcade.

    "In conclusion, since we are waiting for direction from an advisory vote, we as a council would be remiss in my opinion by not adopting this ordinance in the interim, so please folks, register to vote, and turn in that ballot, and give us a direction. That's all I have."

"...The State Voted to Legalize Marijuana, Regardless of Federal Law."
                                          ~ Councilmember Bob Thomas

    Councilmember Bob Thomas: "Since you people have taken the opportunity to come out here tonight and provide us with your input, for those of you that haven't participated in previous meetings, I think it's only fair that I provide you with my thoughts on the matter. For anybody that you find that's for marijuana, you'll find somebody against. That being said, I'm one of the people that concurs with the constitutional viewpoint. Marijuana is illegal from a federal viewpoint. And for whatever reason, the state voted to legalize marijuana, regardless of federal law.

    "So, I'm not happy about being put in a position to vote on something that we should not be asked to vote on to begin with. The people of the state of Washington should be lobbying Maria Cantwell, Patty Murray and Dave Reichert, instead of lobbying city council, to change the federal law. And then, instead of taking an anarchist approach to it, we're going to do what we want to do then we can, if we are given that latitude by the federal government and the state government, then we can take appropriate action. So I'm right now, that's the basis for my viewpoints on this. I don't see where we legally have the latitude, to vote for it even if we chose to. And if you do so, then you're flying in the face of federal law. That's my thoughts on the subject."

 "...Our Job as Council Members is to do the Research, Inform Ourselves, Make the Best Decision that we Can for Our town, Safety-Wise, Economically, Business Development..."
                                              
~ Councilmember Bob Walter

    Councilmember Bob Walter: "I have always voted against the, I think, seven moratoriums. We passed one in 2013 and had six extensions to it. Regarding the constitutionality, I think just a brief review of what's been going on over the last 40 years, 50 years, eliminates, or leaves out, a huge portion of the evolution of the perspectives about the marijuana plant, the cannabis plant, in this country.

    "Including, really, as I mentioned at the last meeting, some statements - racist statements by the original director of the Federal Bureau of Narcotics, part of the U.S. Treasury Division. And the propaganda, the false claims, all of those things need to also be thrown into the mix when we're talking about constitutionality and states' rights. And I'm proud to be a Washington citizen, and proud that Washington was one of the very first states that moved to regulate even recreational marijuana.

    "But my biggest point in terms of supporting, allowing recreational - any - marijuana businesses in town, is because of its ability to make it easier for certified medical users to access it. And I don't mean just people here in Eatonville and people traveling south toward the mountain.

     "I'm talking about people from Ashford, Elbe, Morton, Mineral, Packwood, Randle, and every point south. So this week, I was concerned that I didn't see the public notice in the Dispatch about this public hearing that we just had. So I called the Municipal Research Services Center. And I talked to Jill Dvorkin. And she said, 'I'll get back to you.'
 
     "And she looked at our code, and she looked at our zoning ordinance, and she got back to me. She said, 'Your development code sets forth a process for any changes to the code, any amendments to the code.' And as I described it to her, one council member desires to ban a particular use. And she says, 'Permitted uses are set forth in the zoning code, so I think you'd have to characterize a change to the types of uses allowed here, a ban on marijuana-related businesses, as a change in the zoning code.

     "To amend the zoning code, the Planning Commission must first hold a public hearing, with notice of such hearing in at least one publication in the local newspaper at least ten days prior to that hearing. So, I would recommend advising your fellow council members that this action should not proceed without adhering to the process set forth in your code.'

    "Were violating our own code. This is an attempt to re-establish a moratorium. That was the first question she had for me, was, 'Why isn't it a moratorium?' I said, well, we've had seven of them, and we voted last June not to continue it. And, she said, 'You can call it a moratorium and start over and do it that way,' but this, she says, is going against our own code, banning something that is allowed in our code.

     "Not specifically, but it's allowed by the state. It's similar to other  things, and there's a section in our zoning code that mentions - it's Section 5, e., - that mentions 'other uses,' other retail uses, similar to those already specifically mentioned. So that's my first point that I want to make tonight - and I'll hand out copies to council and staff of her email to me (He does so.) - is that we're going against our own code. I think we would be in big trouble, potentially, if we pass this second reading tonight.

    "I also want to comment on a few other things, briefly, especially points that councilmember Schrimpsher has mentioned in the last couple of meetings. I think, as far as property values go, you said you've done some of your own research on property values.

    "Well, let's look at greater Seattle. There's about three dozen recreational-- three dozen marijuana retail shops in the greater Seattle area. Property values in Seattle are rising faster than anywhere else in the country right now. So I don't really see too much weight in that aspect of it.

    "You also mentioned the Washington Traffic Safety Commission study, and you gave us copies of portions of that study, which was very helpful. So I pulled it up online and immediately went to the end of it, to see what was the summary of that...

    "This is a study on toxicology reports on drivers in fatal crashes, and the incidence of alcohol, marijuana, residual marijuana, residual THC, from maybe a week or two ago. They're amassing a lot of data. You portrayed this as an example of how DUIs, especially among youth, have increased because of I-502. The summary of this report says, 'While this report explains that trend, and the characteristics of these drivers, this information is not sufficient to determine if marijuana directly contributed to the cause of these crashes.'

    "It's simply preliminary data. And you also mentioned a 68 percent increase. Well, that 68 percent was not an increase; it was simply a proportion of drivers age 16-25 who were tested, after the crashes that they were involved in. And that group happened to be the highest percentage, at 68 percent - young drivers, 16-25.

    "There's been lots of talk about the advisory ballot. And I thought it was an interesting suggestion you made, Mr. Throop, about, let's just make it a binding vote. My question to you Councilmember Schrimpsher, and to you Councilmember Hannah, who also talked about the advisory ballot-- We know our community was evenly split on this issue. It was almost 50-50 in 2012. It very well will be close again.

    "So what happens, if out of 900 votes it shows a dozen votes in favor of legalization? Then what would you recommend the council do? Or, what if it was a dozen votes, six votes, leaning toward prohibition, toward a permanent ban.

    "At least, our job as council members is to do the research, inform ourselves, make the best decision that we can for our town, safety-wise, economically, business development, whatever. And so I'm just wondering what you recommend council should do in the case of a very close advisory ballot."

"The Oath of Office that I Took Also Includes the Stipulation that I will Support the Laws and Constitution of the State of Washington."
                                                      ~ Councilmember Bill Dunn

    Councilmember Bill Dunn: "So, I believe that this council's role has been pretty well defined by a fellow council member, what they say in their online council member profile, that a council's role is, 'to provide for a dynamic, vibrant community, while respecting individual citizens' rights.'

    "And to me, that's what this issue is about - individual rights. We can sit here and tie knots all day long about the nuances of this debate. But when the rubber hits the road, the question facing this council is not whether or not marijuana is addictive. It's not whether or not the incidence of DUI involving marijuana has increased. It's not a matter of how much revenue, if any, the town will receive as a result of this business (inaudible).

    "And it may sound like semantics, but the question facing this council is not whether or not to allow somebody to do something, it's whether to deny somebody the right to do something. As individuals we're faced with risk-vs.-reward decisions every day.

    'Many of us in this room choose, despite the potential negative consequences, to eat red meat, to consume caffeine, to consume alcohol, to use tobacco, to consume sugar. Many of us in this room choose to own firearms.

    "Now these are all examples of decisions that we, as the individual, have the right to make, despite the potential negative consequences. And they're all examples that prove the mere existence of a potential negative consequence isn't grounds enough to prohibit somebody from doing what they're legally obligated to do.

    "The fundamental aspect of freedom is the person's  right to choose. The system of freedom struggles when individuals fail in their obligation to make smart, safe and healthy decisions. It's not the act itself that poses the greatest problem; it's the decision to engage in the act that poses the greatest threat. Poor decision-making is at the very heart of this debate. And there are no laws, and there are no moratoriums, that can prevent poor decision-making. And I keep hearing being opposed to a permanent ban on marijuana is an advocation for these businesses.

    "I remember standing at that podium on January 9, 2017, when I was being interviewed for the open position on this council, and councilmember Schrimpsher making the comment, that being a member of this council requires a person to set aside their personal beliefs, and their personal feelings, to make a decision.

    "And this issue is certainly an example of when my personal beliefs, and the position I take as a member of this council, are in direct conflict. I've sat here many times and said, that my position on this issue is not an advocation for marijuana businesses. Truth be told, I wouldn't want to see a marijuana business in this town any more than the next person, but that does not give me the right to ban it.

    "There's also been several references to the oaths of office that we took when we became members of this council, oaths where we swore to defend the laws and the Constitution of the United States, and that being opposed to a permanent ban on marijuana businesses is a violation of our oaths.

    "But I wonder how many of those individuals who have made that claim have actually read the oaths of office that we took. The oath of office that I took also includes the stipulation that I will support the laws and constitution of the state of Washington. And like it or not, the results of Initiative 502 is Washington State law. And as of right now, as of this very moment, the federal government hasn't taken any action whatsoever to indicate its intent on pre-empting our state's law. And it's been five years!

    "A person can reasonably argue that the only steps the federal government has taken have been backward, in regards to its enforcement of marijuana laws in states that have either decriminalized its use, or outright legalized its use. Police officers, county sheriffs, state patrol troopers, Department of Revenue, Department of Licensing, municipal courts, county courts, state courts, prosecutors, judges, they've all got their policies to enforce marijuana laws consistent with the state of Washington, being they enforce laws based on the result of Initiative 502.

     "Does that mean that every police officer, every prosecutor, every judge, is in violation of their oath of office? No. Because the judicial system hasn't provided them with the tools that they'll need in order to deviate from our state law.

    "It's my belief that this council is in the same conundrum. We can't ban things on the existence of potential negative consequences. We can't ban things because we don't like them. And we can't ban things because we're scared of them. And we certainly can't ban things that our state has adopted laws, for the specific purpose of protecting the person's right to do that very thing.

    "It's my belief that a vote in favor of a permanent ban is a vote against supporting the laws and constitution of the State of Washington, and it's my opinion that my vote requires me to vote in favor of supporting this law, and to protect and respect the individual's rights, whether I like them or not, until the federal government articulates otherwise."

"I Don't Think There's Anybody on This Council, Probably Anybody in this Room, that Would be Against Strictly Medical Marijuana, Including Myself."
                                    
~ Councilmember Jim Schrimpsher

    Councilmember Jim Schrimpsher: "First off, I want to thank the crowd for great public input tonight. I think this is one of our more well-attended, well-spoken at, council meetings. So, I've always stated, from the time we started putting moratoriums on, that it should be the choice of the people of the town. And I agree, the same thing I told councilmember Dunn. I put my personal beliefs about marijuana aside, and I look at what's best for this town, the fiscal impacts, public safety impacts, and weigh them against the philosophical debate around marijuana. I don't think there's anybody on this council, probably anybody in this room, that would be against strictly medical marijuana, including myself.

    "So, a little legislative update, dealing with this issue. I'll give you a little bit more to research, councilmember Walter. House Bill 2636.* (*Publishers note: He may have meant House Bill 2336.) It's getting quite a bit of traction in the legislature. It's a move by Appleton and Sutton, to pre-empt any ban on marijuana by a council. So that means, that the state could take that right away from municipalities. That being said, the only way a municipality, under this new law, if this House Bill 2636* passes, would be by a vote of the people. The same thing that you just advocated for, the State of Washington is going to require, if this law passes.

    "So, I've always advocated for a vote of the people when the  moratoriums were going on, I wanted an advisory vote. This is too important an issue for us five members up here to decide for you, even though we are your elected officials. And it is people that come to the council meetings on a regular basis. One night we have all the fors, the next night we have all the against. So, let's put it to you guys.

    "And to your question, councilmember Walter, if it's just an advisory vote, what I would do as a council member, and I don't want to put words in councilmember Hannah's mouth, or councilmember Thomas's mouth, or anyone's. I would say that I would follow the will of the people. So I'm on record saying that if this passes, I would vote for it, if it's an advisory vote. I've always said that. It's your decision. This is too important of a decision. It should go to the people, pure and simple.

    "I want to correct a few things that were brought up about my presentation at the last council meeting. The City of Covington, the reason I prepared it, is because my wife was in the crowd. My wife is the sole detective for the City of Covington. That means she handles all the criminal cases that go to Covington. They have two marijuana shops. And if you look at the documentation that I handed out, The City of Covington last year only
received about $14,000. That's not enough to cover all the crimes associated with just the marijuana shops in town.

    "I, too, have been talking to people, doing some research. One of the people  that was contacted is the Liquor Control Board law enforcement chief. The information that he provided, is the Liquor and Cannabis Board does not collect data, nor does enforcement on crime around marijuana shops. They rely solely on the local municipalities. They do not collect the data. His name is Justin Nordhorn. He's the Liquor and Cannabis Board police chief.

    "Another person that I spoke to or had contacted was the director for youth drug counseling at the Youth Eastside Services. That's a King County youth counseling center. Eighty five percent of the youth that are coming into his program are already either using or addicted to marijuana. His name is David Downey (sp?). We've had a lot of comments about the State of Washington, and adopting laws, and I-502. I would say that we could be the forerunners of doing it the way the state wants us to do it, by having this ban until an advisory vote can be made.

     "And then at such time a more permanent decision can be made. It seems that's the way the state legislature is steering everyone, so let's be the forerunner. I hope everybody got a little bit of all points of view tonight. And again, I appreciate everybody's engagement."
 
    "Walter: "I don't know where to start. I think, obviously, what the MRSC [Municipal Research] legal consultant is saying to me, when I'm reading from what she's saying, is that were not going by what the state is asking us to do. In fact, we're not even following our own due process for altering our code. I would rather we went back to a moratorium than did the ban. But what I'd rather do is vote this down now, put us back in the 'no action' category, and begin the process of Planning Commission review for setting our own regulations, for changing any buffer distances, if we feel we need to reduce those that could be reduced in some areas, to give a little more leeway, given the geographic makeup of our town.

    "To me, it's the medical use and availability that's the biggest issue, the biggest states' rights issue, that I think we should be fighting for. It would be nice to have some tax revenues. That would help, but I've never said that it's going to save the town, or pick us up, but I have said that we should be finding ways to exercise targeted efforts to bring more businesses into town, because we desperately need them. And I also want to, like the other council members have said, thank all of you for speaking, those of you who have come tonight, and listened and spoken. This is democracy in action. So I appreciate that."

    Schaub: "So I guess my question on the process is the-- what we  do have in front of us, for the change in the code, for the ordinance to go through and going through the normal Planning Commission. I know we had this before the town attorney, and I don't recall that coming out of his information."

    Gribi: "It did not. We spoke to the attorney when the interim regulations were voted down. We provided him with the verbatim of councilman Schrimpsher's motion. Nothing was spoken about this needing to go before the Planning Commission. In reading our code, for amendments, it does state and call out, rezones that change the official zoning map, or text amendments that would add, delete or otherwise modify the text of this title.

    "There is text, but when it relates to the public hearing it is a true rezone that it's referring to, because it says, notice shall be given to all property owners within at least 300 feet when determined by the planning director. Greater distance, you can add more. Public notices shall be posted in one conspicuous place on or adjacent to the property which is subject to the application at least ten days prior to the date of public hearing. We've had no application for a rezone. This is?..."

    Schaub: "This is just adding language."

    Walter: "This is banning an allowed use."

    Gribi: "This is adding a new chapter that is not currently called out as a strict, allowed use. So the
code Section 18.09.050-- I can get more clarification from the attorney, but I don't know that this directly relates to what's before us tonight.

    Schaub: "And we did verify on the process that  we went through for the public hearing, the notice that was necessary, and the time frame that was necessary, and we fell within those, as we did contact the attorney for clarification on that. That's what we went under, and I would agree the land rezone for rezoning someone's property seems to be what was referenced with the ten-day and notifying the landowners. That's the process that would be."

    Walter: "Just in response to what you were just saying, obviously, you're interpreting what the legal consultant with MRSC stated as wrong, and that it's--You mentioned if someone applied for a rezone, that would probably initiate the process for a quasi-judicial public hearing, where that person and persons, anybody around that property would be duly noticed in plenty of time so they had time to prepare for comment at the public hearing.

    "The notice for tonight's hearing is not a quasi-judicial hearing. It doesn't apply to just one property, one area. It applies to the entire code, the entire town. And my concern is that, its not that we haven't duly noticed it. Obviously you tried; you've done your best, got it in the Tribune and so forth. But we're not following our process that is stated in our code, for amending the code to ban an allowed use. In Section 5.a., I believe it is,
in that same portion of the code."

    Schaub: "I think it's up to council to decide which route they want to go. Like I said, we went through the attorney, asked the questions, brought the language forward. And this is what was given to us, along with what was necessary for the public hearing. And I think for me, this is a question for him to interpret the language. And again, how a question is asked can get you multiple answers. I'm interpreting it one way; you have it interpreted
another way. So I think that's up to council what they wish to do with it."

    Walter then moved to table the second reading of the ordinance until the town attorney can take another look at it. Thomas seconded. The motion passed.

    Schrimpsher returned the discussion to a moratorium. Thomas said he felt it was within the spirit of the law if the council moved for a moratorium tonight. Walter said that seemed to be what Jill Dvorkin of MRSC was suggesting. Schaub said it would involve a public hearing, which could be sooner than 60 days out, and could even be at the next meeting when it would finalize the moratorium reinstatement.

    Thomas then moved to reinstate the moratorium on marijuana-related businesses until an advisory vote could be conducted. A request was made for a roll call vote. Schrimpsher - Yes; Dunn - No; Walter -  No; Thomas - Yes; Hannah - Yes. The motion passed 3-2.

    When Schaub said, at 8:49 p.m, "So that concludes the unfinished business," the entire room responded with a triumphant murmur of sighs, hoots and congenial laughter.

Regular Meeting Resumes 

     Resolution 2018-A authorized the sale of surplus town property, including four police vehicles that are each ten years old or older, the skid steer, and a hot box asphalt trailer. The resolution passed unanimously.

     In council member comments, Hannah thanked everyone for attending, and said in answer to Walter's question about the result of an advisory vote, she doesn't care if it was one vote difference, she will go with the vote of the people.

    Thomas thanked the audience and said it was a refreshing change to see this many people actively engaged in local government.

    Walter also thanked all for participating, and thanked his fellow council members for their time spent on the issue being debated.

    Dunn, too, thanked all for coming out and having the courage to provide input, and said he'll always be in support of defending the rights of the individual.

    Schrimpsher said Town Administrator Gribi and he will be attending the Association of Washington Cities' [AWC] 'City Days' lobbying event at the legislature in Olympia over the next couple of days. He encouraged everyone to be as diligent in learning about bills making their way through the state legislature, as they have been about the issue of marijuana businesses Eatonville, and he appreciated everyone's input and comments.

   With that, Mayor Schaub adjourned the meeting at 8:56 p.m.

 

Marijuana Shop Letter from Amy Rounds...

     I feel the need to share my 2 cents on the marijuana issue.

    Just because one person doesn’t use pot, doesn’t give that person the right to stand in the way of people that do use or want to. I think keep the 1000’ buffer and let someone that wants to try to open take it up with the state. If they can even get a license. If federal overturns legality, that’s on the business owner. It’s their problem.

    Use this same scenario with another item. A gun shop. Not everyone would use that, should a person that wants a gun shop be denied based on people’s view against guns. A gourmet cupcake shop. It could be attributed to childhood obesity. Kids will be stealing money to get sugar. And not to mention possible diabetes!

     Gay marriage, just because you don’t want to marry same sex, you  shouldn’t block others from doing it. Live and let live. A lot of people are borrowing worries and playing a what if game.

    Plus a vote for it doesn’t mean a shop would open tomorrow. As a council, you shouldn’t stand in the way of a business. Maybe work on strict guidelines for it. Location and signage.

    If there isn’t enough people that use this type business, then it wouldn’t be able sustain being open.

   Just my thoughts,
   Thanks for listening
   Amy Rounds

 

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"And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.”

~ Bible: King James Version
 

 

 

 

 

 


“It doesn’t have a high potential for abuse, and there are very legitimate medical applications. In fact, sometimes Marijuana is the only thing that works… It is irresponsible not to provide the best care we can as a medical community, care that could involve Marijuana. We have been terribly and systematically misled for nearly 70 years in the United States, and I apologize for my own role in that.”

~ Dr. Sanjay Gupta  Neurosurgeon.
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

“I now have absolute proof that smoking even one marijuana cigarette is equal in brain damage to being on Bikini Island during an H-bomb blast” –

~ Ronald Reagan


 

 

 

 

 

 


“The evidence is overwhelming that Marijuana can relieve certain types of pain, nausea, vomiting and other symptoms caused by such illnesses as multiple sclerosis, cancer and AIDS or by the harsh drugs sometimes used to treat them. And it can do so with remarkable safety. Indeed, Marijuana is less toxic than many of the drugs that physicians prescribe every day.”

~Joycelyn Elders, MD / Pediatrician, Public Health Administrator
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


“The amount of money and of legal energy being given to prosecute hundreds of thousands of Americans who are caught with a few ounces of marijuana in their jeans simply makes no sense - the kindest way to put it. A sterner way to put it is that it is an outrage, an imposition on basic civil liberties and on the reasonable expenditure of social energy.”

~ William F. Buckley Jr.

 

 

 

 

 

 



“In strict medical terms marijuana is far safer than many foods we commonly consume. For example, eating 10 raw potatoes can result in a toxic response. By comparison, it is physically impossible to eat enough marijuana to induce death. Marijuana in its natural form is one of the safest therapeutically active substances known to man. By any measure of rational analysis marijuana can be safely used within the supervised routine of medical care.

DEA Administrative Law Judge 
~ Francis Young

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



“And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.”

~ Bible: King James Version


 

 

 

 

 

 


“I think that marijuana should not only be legal, I think it should be a cottage industry. There’s some pretty good homegrown dope. I’m sure it would be even better if you could grow it with fertilizers and have greenhouses.”

~ Stephen King
 

 

 

 

 

 



“There’s [an] ironic, almost tragic phenomenon, which is that seniors, who are one of the groups who can most benefit from use of cannabis, are the single group which remains most opposed to reforming cannabis laws.”

~ Steve DeAngelo

 

 

 

 

 

 


“The illegality of cannabis is outrageous, an impediment to full utilization of a drug which helps produce the serenity and insight, sensitivity and fellowship so desperately needed in this increasingly mad and dangerous world.”

~  Carl Sagan

 
   

 

 
 
 
 
 
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