My
View:
Some Notes
About the Recent Safety Committee Meeting
Some Very Interesting Discussions...
by
Dixie A. Walter
March 8, 2008
I didn't attend the last safety committee meeting. There are so many
meetings in this town lately that I
completely
forgot there was yet another safety meeting last week. However, I have
heard there were very few people attending who weren't either fire
department volunteers or law enforcement.
The leaders of this town
don't seem to understand that when people stop showing up at meetings,
they are burned out,
busy and
somewhat confused about the amount of meetings each week.
And, if computers are used, every word spoken at many meetings can be
heard on Steve Lind's Web site.
I know Chief
Vellias, of District 15, and others chiefs/firefighters are listening
to the audio of these public meetings. And good for them.
I listened to the audio
and transcribed some of the meeting.
Some of what I heard made me embarrassed as a citizen. I was very taken aback when Bud
Lucas asked Dispatch Publisher Mike Jeffries not to publish what
was going to be talked about. Making the meeting public could
"scuttlebutt" the deal. I would like to know what would be
skuttlebutted.
Especially
since toward the end of the meeting Lucas said nothing was secret.
That simply isn't done to members of the
media when attending a public meeting. It doesn't look good,
because there is a perception that something needs to be kept hidden.
There are times when media types will
hold back on a story if telling it will destroy a court case or
something equally important. But those are ethical choices each
publisher and editor must make. When a member of the media, such as
Mike Jeffries, is asked to play along and keep quiet about the most
vitally, important issue at the moment something is definitely not
transparent.
Jeffries has also been keeping a keen
eye on the town and has spoken up many times, publicly, about the
way this town is being run.
Since the request to keep the public
meeting private came early in a long meeting, it's very difficult to
understand what could have been scuttlebutted by citizens knowing
what their leaders are deciding, or talking about.
Is There
Animosity?
Even though I'm not sure about the scuttlebutt thing, I'm pretty
sure parts of the conversations are something some would not like
known. It's not hard to see there is a certain amount of animosity on
this committee toward District 15. I don't know if the animosity
exists on the other end. But when a council man, former mayor, safety
committee co-chair sits during a meeting and, by name, speaks against
a member of District 15's board of commissioners, something is
definitely wrong.
Apparently, Rath doesn't care if the
commissioner knows what he said as, by now, he should know there are
recorders going. It's very interesting and very sad that some of
these people who hold our lives in their hands have to be so
territorial and just plain bitchy. The audio of this public meeting
has been on the Internet for many days. What was said, decided, etc.
isn't a secret to people who have heard the comments.
Bud Lucas, who is a former medic,
retired after 28 years with the Tacoma Fire Department, and a safety
committee member for nearly two years, called the mayor Sunday,
March 2. The mayor states he was "thrilled," Lucas called him.
Lucas has a proposal. He will work for the town at $1,000 per month
(minimum of 40 hours per month).
Lucas says, "If
you get a chief that's a medic, then go at it, but it's still gonna be
an eight hour a day job, five days a week. Pay, I just
picked a thousand dollars for nine months.
"Here's what my proposal is. I'm willing to
come on board whether it's an aide to the chief, as the chief,
whatever, I don't care. I wish I could tell you I'll do this for
nothing. I will administer, and get this thing up and running. I will
be glad to do it for the rest of the year."
He pointed out that his idea was based
on Interim Fire Chief Josh Wikander wanting to leave the position
by the end of this month, March 31. Although the mayor said he was
going to try and talk him into staying longer.
Rent
Medics, Bring in a Trailer to
House Them?
Another idea was to hire medics, bring a trailer in and park it
next to the fire hall. I'm almost positive this is against town
code. Oh, that's right. People who use the town code appear to pick
and choose which parts of the code they use. Case in point, the
Baublits' property. The town planner, administrator, mayor, and some
council members ignored the code which said the project should go to
the planning commission before going to the council.
Toward the end of the safety
committee meeting Rath
said something about possibly renting a small house
or apartment
"across the street." There are duplexes across from the fire hall.
Everyone seems to think lifting the
lid on the levy will pass and they will have more money. I'm not too
sure
this isn't another place where they count the chicks before
they hatch. I'm surprised by the number of people who tell me they
want to see Eatonville consolidate with District 15. That it will save
them money. And there have been people saying this for years. I can't
see how this move helps us with advanced life support response times,
however.
The mayor was advised, during the last council
meeting, that the town will come up with $150,000 so he can hire a
fire chief and paramedic/firefighter. At the safety committee meeting
he gave a slightly veiled threat. "...I've been through the budget
fifty times and to find another fifty, sixty, seventy thousand dollars
I would have to lay off a policeman. That's about the only place we
could get it [money] from."
Immediately Adams said, "We already told
you, we're not doing that." Smallwood answered, "I know." Then
went on to say, "If we lay off a financial person that money has to go
back to utilities where it's paid for."
Mayor Smallwood eventually informed those in
attendance, "I say we do this. Go to council, find a position hire
for Bud at $1,000 a month."
Need proof of what some of our "leaders"
are saying? Go to Steve Lind's site
http://www.s-lind.com/index_files/packetspage.html,
click on "Audio of Public Safety Meeting of 3/5/08," and listen for
yourself.
Yes, meetings are getting longer, and longer, and it's
sometimes painful to listen to every word. But you can forward through
some of the monotony on the audio. Another plus, you can listen while doing other
tasks. And, something we who attend meetings cannot do, you can pause,
or stop, the audio.
Below
Are Transcribed Excerpts of the Meeting Pertaining to "My View"
Safety Committee
Meeting - March 5, 2008
Chair Councilmembert Rich Adams:
Go right to the mayor's report.
Mayor
Tom Smallwood: Bud has an EMS proposal. We'll go through
it when we get down to Bud's. I got some more negatives on it from
Vellias (Fire Chief of District 15), basically he felt that might
work...
Hire a chief, rent
paramedics, from 15 or others, demand peak hours for Eatonville
ALS which includes transport from Eatonville
surrounding areas. Eatonville would respond to peak hours to the
area around Eatonville. The closest person would respond...
We could go back to the earlier plan, but I don't think we are
ready for that, to consolidate with 15 and 17, consolidate and
later merge, consider Ashford and Orting. And consolidation could
take place in the form of Sumner and Bonney Lake did, or like 15
and 17 did. They consolidated, and now they are working for a
merger. It's a year or two, three year process.
Hire 15s
& 17's chief temporarily for Eatonville. Maybe we would get a
little more cooperation...
The best
could be a consolidation of all of the above.
Things
that should not be affected. The engine stays. Volunteer
support should be kept intact.
Other
things to consider. Fire station, public safety building, but
that's quite a ways out. Temporary sleeping quarters adjacent
to fire station.Something Bud came up with. I looked into it,
don't have all the costs yet. Get a trailer, put it in the parking
lot, two rooms and a shower and bathroom. [I believe this might be
against the town code.]
These
are just ideas. Nothing's firm.
Eatonville has set up a
process to for a levy lid lift $1.50 per thousand. Would bring us
about $400,000.
We could
pay 15 a rate for ALS support, hire a chief/ Eatonville to do fire,
and a large part of BLS. That's a possibility.
Bud Lucas
called me Sunday night. I was actually thrilled he called...
Bud has an
EMS [Emergency Medical Services] proposal.We'll go through when we
get down to Bud's... I got some more negatives on it from
Vellias...basically he felt that might work...
Things that
should not be affected...the engine stays...Volunteers
support should be kept intact...
Got to
Bud's.This is some of the things that Roy did...
Lucas:
I'm nervous about talking about this in public. Asks Jeffries not to
publish the meeting as it could scuttlebutt it. Lucas going to
be starting in April.
Lucas:
My audacity. District 23, we might be their closest ALS
response. Similar to how we have been squeezed, they
might have to be squeezed. Maybe $500 a month...15 would be also be
doing ALS for 23.
Proposal
-
Same way 17 started, not some big idea I just drummed
up...Contract out $300 a day, and start hiring medics
[rent medics]. They would not be "city employees. We do have to pay
certain, but you won't have, and so this, they can't, this is 24
hours a day, 365 days a year, hopefully.
Lucas: I've
got some phone calls. There are guys who will work for $300, and
another thing is we're aren't taking them to the Hilltop, and
run 20 calls a day.
Adams: One or
two calls a day?
Lucas:
Maybe three or four, who knows.
This is the
part I wish we could have discussed ahead of time, but it wasn't
discussed ahead of time. This whole premise would ride more on
the backs of the volunteers, more than anybody. And they have been
rode hard and put away wet quite a few times, a lot.
During the day you have
Sheila here so you wouldn't need a driver. Every night we would need
an volunteer EMT/driver.
Josh Wikander: Basically
every member of the fire dept. has a 9 to 5 job. [Except Sheila]
Lucas: I can
guarantee you that if we filed for a variance from the EMS council,
I believe Dr. Waffle would give us one. If we just had basic
first aid to drive. [Dr. Carl Waffle of the Pierce County EMS
Council.]
Adams:
Is that a state requirement instead of a county requirement?
Lucas:
I don't care, they can still give us a variance. He's the law in
the county. So, I'm just saying, if there's not enough..."
Lucas:
Verbatim: Um, Here's the other point, um, [pause], it
doesn't have to be what I'm going to say, but this is
just what I'm offering up, and I've offered this up before, that I'm
not sure at the council meeting last time I haven't made a big issue
of it, but I don't know of hiring a chief is what we need, we need
Indians, almost...
If
you get a chief that's a medic, then go at it, but it's still gonna
be an eight hour a day job, five days a week. Pay, I just picked
a thousand dollars for nine months. Here's what my proposal is. "I'm
willing to come on board whether it's an aide to the chief, as
the chief, whatever, I don't care.
"I wish I could tell you I'll do this for nothing. I will
administer, and get this thing up and running. I will be glad to do it for the rest of the year. [He has
"bad arthritis" and, wisely, didn't commit to assisting with heavy
work, like pulling hoses.] "This is only based on what Josh says."
[Interim Fire Chief, Josh Wickander, who has expressed his desire to
leave the position March 21.]
Bruce Rath: Speaking of John Sebastion, a commissioner with
District 15. "I didn't trust him when they were here. I just
didn't trust him to begin with. He's the one pulling the strings
behind this deal. You could see that in the audience the other
meeting. [Referring to the well-attended meeting of February 29.]